The ministry of discouragement and disunity

[simplejeff]

It is only accomplished in those who are crucified with Christ((once)), not those who try to achieve it .

It is Yahweh's Work, already done in those immersed in Yahshua who gave up their own life for His, as Paul wrote - 

I've been crucified with Christ, never-the-less I live, yet not I , but Christ Who lives in me,  and the life that I now live, I live by faith in the Son of Yahweh, Who loves me and Gave Himself for me.

The law of the Spirit of LIfe in Christ Jesus has set me free from the law of sin and death.

Already , by Yahweh, by His Word, an accomplished fact in Yahshua.

Already, the whole body of Yahshua, world wide, lives in  Union with Him in the Father, on earth.

Everything else is passing away.

7 minutes ago, *Zion* said:

Yes Jeff, it is a daily sacrifice.  None of us have an easy time of it.  Remember, this is not a guilt trip.  This is about actually doing away with discouragement and disunity.  Let's do this already.

 

[Ezra]

53 minutes ago, *Zion* said:

Anybody else see this???  Are we together?  Let's stand together, shoulder to shoulder, as Colossians 2 says.  

Christians can stand together in Christ when they stand on His Word. Unfortunately, more and more evangelists, pastors, and teachers are departing from the Word and being swept about by all kinds of winds of doctrines. Thus disunity.  When Christian see disunity, they do get discouraged, and the only way to be encouraged is in God's Truth.

[*Zion*]

Jeff, you shall know them by their fruits.  One of those fruits is supposed to be love (See OP )

[*Zion*]

12 minutes ago, Ezra said:

Christians can stand together in Christ when they stand on His Word. Unfortunately, more and more evangelists, pastors, and teachers are departing from the Word and being swept about by all kinds of winds of doctrines. Thus disunity.  When Christian see disunity, they do get discouraged, and the only way to be encouraged is in God's Truth.

I agree, let's encourage one another in God's Word.  

[simplejeff]

The only assemblies besides Jewish ones known to be different ((living with Yahweh)) by their neighbors around them because of their totally changed lives are in china, mainly, and a few around the world.  ((A totally changed life is a result of seeking Yahweh, repenting totally, and being born again by Him in Yahshua, by the Father's  Will, and immersed in Yahshua))

Others observing them are convicted and converted without a word.

In the usa , even family can't usually tell the difference in so-called 'believers', let alone be converted.

Not to mention,  the 'fruits' you're looking for , apparently , are emotional and feelings, which have been used quite widely to mislead multitudes.

Look in Scripture, test everything by Scripture ,all the various teachings and lives,

to see which line up with LIVING Scripture - "DOing and not just hearing" Yahweh's WORD.., Yahweh Permitting.

15 minutes ago, *Zion* said:

Jeff, you shall know them by their fruits.  One of those fruits is supposed to be love (See OP )

As Yahshua says often, and repeated in First John, .........  whoever loves Me keeps My Commandments.

If anyone disobeys, and keeps disobeying without repenting, the Truth is not in them ((they are not new creations)).

 

[*Zion*]

Yes, Jeff I do agree, but you seem to be digressing from the topic at hand.  This is not about being led by emotion, this is about encouragement and unity.  Are you with us?

[simplejeff]

Remember the messenger/ angel reply when he was asked "are you for us or for them".

I am for the Lord of Hosts.

 He requires me to do what is best for whoever is around me- I JOYOUSLY and Willingly obey Him.

Unity won't come , at all, without TRUTH ((I think Ezra mentioned this))....

37 minutes ago, Ezra said:

Christians can stand together in Christ when they stand on His Word. Unfortunately, more and more evangelists, pastors, and teachers are departing from the Word and being swept about by all kinds of winds of doctrines. Thus disunity.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Remember most visitors come from no church at all, or one of those EZRA MENTIONS

We can't have union nor unity with those,  and Yahweh forbids it.  We can testify of Jesus so they can find LIFE in HIM.>>

Unity,  Union, IN MESSIAH is already a fact for everyone immersed in Him.  It is already done, by Yahweh.

ENCOURAGEMENT !? _-->>>  ALL SINS FORGIVEN!!!!>>>

>>>PERFECT PEACE, PERFECT JOY, PERFECT RIGHTEOUSNESS IN HIM ! Done BY HIM.  TODAY.

14 minutes ago, *Zion* said:

Yes, Jeff I do agree, but you seem to be digressing from the topic at hand.  This is not about being led by emotion, this is about encouragement and unity.  Are you with us?

 

[*Zion*]

Amen, Jeff.  That's encouraging stuff.  Now it's up to us to unify with that or not - whether in attitude, choice of words or whatever we can effectively use in order to lift one another up in the Lord.

[simplejeff]

Amen, in Yahweh, Yes,  We in the Lord have already been doing that, naturally in Christ , in union with Him - but awkwardly, because we are in the world's side of the internet.... just like the disciples in Athens((i.e. a few disciples in the midst of a lot of other gods))....  Realizing and accepting this,  let's go on... ((with no compromising the integrity and TRUTH of Yahweh's WORD)).   

41 minutes ago, *Zion* said:

Amen, Jeff.  That's encouraging stuff.  Now it's up to us to unify with that or not - whether in attitude, choice of words or whatever we can effectively use in order to lift one another up in the Lord.

 

[*Zion*]

I don't think it has to be awkward at all.  Jesus is not awkward.  He is meek and gentle, full of wisdom and truth.  That's the standard, and what we should be cheering each other onto