Sabbath Day TRUTHs While Sat.&Sun. Not even close

[Guest H2O]

Greetings everyone.

I am new here, I am pointing out what I believe to be the Real Sabbath.

Most folks think it dos'nt matter what day it is. But I can show, the scripture that always has been right there in our face, that shows not only that we should observe the Sabbath day, but when it is.

I know that there is always been many views on this issue. But if you will spend a little time to look over what I present here, you may see my point and I would love to hear your thoughts. Thank you H2O

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Our Heavenly Father gives us specific instructions as to which days of the year to set apart for rest and worship.

We are not to add to or to diminish from what He "GOD" orders, by inventing a calendar of our own.

So, changing the Laws and Times of worship as spoken of by Daniel the Prophet, concerning the Roman Empire (Daniel 7:25) and fulfilled by Julius Caesar the Roman Emperor, where he removed the Moon as a basis for the calendar.

The Roman calendar is a recent invention, an evil instrument designed to confuse and destroy the true times and Appointments of YHWH.

YHWHs calendar And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: In other words, they shall beacon you for the appointment days of YHWH. Appointments mean seasons (from the King James Version). signs-means beacons. (See concordance)

Begin each month with the New Moon !

it was in the past and may still be a worship day.

The New Moon is NOT a Sabbath Day ! It is a worship day.

( Isaiah 66:23 - Ezekiel 46:1 - Amos 8:5 )

Then count the six workdays, and rest on the seventh day

( the weekly Sabbath )

The Sabbath day will always be on the eighth day from the New Moon.

Then after 6 more work days, we get another Sabbath and so on till the next New Moon.

This is how the Holy men of old understood it and did it.

The Lunar Sabbath

The true weekly seventh day Sabbath of the scriptures is always observed on the same days of the Moon each month.

The reason for this is that they never counted the day of the New Moon when counting out the six workdays.

The word month is from the word moon there are 29.5 modern man days in a lunar month. Today modern age calculates the time and days and months, quite differently then the Holy men of old.

The Sabbath comes after the six workdays of the week, and the day of the New Moon is not one of the six work days, no more than the Sabbath day is.

Ezekiel 46:1

1. Thus saith the Lord God; The gate of the inner court that looketh toward the east shall be shut the six working days; but on the sabbath it shall be opened, and in the day of the new moon it shall be opened.

A new week always began after the New moon or Sabbath, they are both worship days, and not one of the six work days.

Isaiah 66:23

22. For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the Lord, so shall your seed and your name remain.

23. And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the Lord.

24. And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.

Genesis Chapter 1 : verse 13 - 19

13. And the evening and the morning were the third day.

14. And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

15. And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

16. And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

17. And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,

18. And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.

19. And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

I am the Lord your God.

Ye shall keep my Sabbaths.

If you do not, the warnings

Leviticus 26:14 - 46

The Full Moon is Not a Sabbath day !

The difference is a sliver off of a full disk.

The full moon is a pagan thing !

This is just my thoughts

Trash the Roman calendar count and keep YHWHs calendar recorded in Genesis 1:14 for true time keeping, and not partake in the changing of times as spoken of by Daniel the Prophet. Whether it is the time the day begins and ends, or the time the week begins and ends, the time the month or the year begins and ends, let us stay with Nature and YHWHs time clock. Read Genesis 1:14 and Psalms 104:19 for the true appointments of YHWH.

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This is why we need to know that even the Apostles did rest on the seventh day, the weekly Sabbath.

Revelations chapter 22:12 - 15

12. And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.

13. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

14. Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

15. For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

Now there is this fine scripture that shows the way the apostles preached the day of rest, which is the weekly Sabbath.

Hebrews 4

1. Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.

2. For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.

3. For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.

4. For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.

5. And in this place again, if they shall enter into my rest.

6. Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:

7. Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.

8. For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.

9. There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.

10. For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.

11. Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.

12. For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

13. Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do.

14. Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession.

15. For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.

16. Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.

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There WILL be Souls spared because they Obeyed the commandments and gained forgiveness when they failed and kept the Faith and spoke the Gospel of Jesus Christ the LORD.

REV 12

17. And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

REV 14

12. Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

REV 22

12. And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.

13. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

14. Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

15. For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

REVELATIONS 22:16-21

16. I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

17. And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.

18. For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

19. And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

20. He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

21. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.

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This is my case for you're understanding, that I post here and welcome all to respond to.

All Glory be to God Almighty......

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I do not know WHY? , but your Forum is not alowing the Img tags to display the pictures/graphic, that will clearly show the Moon fazes..?

H2O

If a mod could fix this and explain why this happend I would be most pleased.

Edited February 21, 2005 by H2O

[Guest H2O]

Sorry, but this forum has the Graphics up and working.

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page two..

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I belong to many forums, and I found this one today and hope to be part of you're Forum and I try not to offend anyone ever, but yet some do get offended when the scripture I supply from The KJV Bible differs from their Church doctrine,

Note: I wish that I did not have to show the other URL to the other Forum, but I saw no other way to alow the self explaining graphics,

Peace be with you H2O

Edited February 21, 2005 by IslandRose

[ayin jade]

While I was reading this, this verse came to mind.

Col 2:16 Therefore let no one judge you in food or in drink, or in respect of a feast, or of the new moon, or of the sabbaths.

I was also reminded of this passage.

Rom 14:5-13 One indeed esteems a day above another day; and another esteems every day alike. Let each one be fully assured in his own mind. He who regards the day regards it to the Lord; and he not regarding the day, does not regard it to the Lord. He who eats, eats to the Lord, for he gives God thanks; and he who does not eat, does not eat to the Lord, and gives God thanks. For none of us lives to himself, and no one dies to himself. For both if we live, we live to the Lord; and if we die, we die to the Lord. Therefore both if we live, and if we die, we are the Lord's. For this Christ both died and rose and lived again, that He might be Lord both of the dead and living. But why do you judge your brother? Or also why do you despise your brother? For all shall stand before the judgment seat of Christ. For it is written, "As I live, says the Lord, every knee shall bow to Me, and every tongue shall confess to God." So then each one of us will give account concerning himself to God. Then let us not judge one another any more, but rather judge this, not to put a stumbling-block or an offense toward his brother.

[rollinTHUNDER]

The Jews were commanded to keep the Sabbath, not the Gentiles. Can you show me one place in the New Testament where Christians are commanded to keep the Sabbath?

We were commanded to:

Luke 9:23 - "And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me."

Isaiah 43:18-19 - "Remember ye not the former things, neither consider the things of old. (19)Behold, I will do a new thing; now it shall spring forth; shall ye not know it? I will even make a way in the wilderness, and rivers in the desert."

It's all about Jesus, who came to set the captives free! We are supposed to be living sacrifices everyday.

Why would a Christian who has been set free from the bondage of the Law, want to enter back into it?

Who would want to pour new wine into old wine skins?

[JimR-OCDS]

Also, Jesus said, "the sabbath was made for man, not man for the sabbath."

As Christians, we observe the "Lord's Day," Sunday, because this is the day, Jesus rose and gave us eternal life.

[Guest shiloh357]

Regardless of what a person thinks about the Sabbath, either pro or con, H2O is just wrong as to how the Sabbath was calculated in ancient Israel. The Torah tells us that the Sabbath was on the seventh day of the week. Counting from Rosh HaChodesh," or The New Moon, pertained to the observance of the seven annual festivals, not the Sabbath.

[wordsower]

Is this thread confusing or is it just me?

[Khristeeanos]

Don't forget that the Sabbath for the Jewish nation started at sundown on Friday and ended at sundown on Saturday.

[irishcowboy]

why not observe everyday as the Lords day?

placing the Lord first, last, and formost in ones life thru out the entire day of every day, not just one day a week.

isn't this what God would rather have? then have people congregating one day a week with masks on? playing church for a couple hours one day a week and then while they are doing that they are timing the pastor to see if he is running over....

by the way, Going To Church is mostly unbiblical,

the church is not the building the church is the souls, the people. and if we have to go to church, do we not also have to leave church? if we are truely the church we do not have to go anywhere to be with God, cause our own dwelling place will also be Gods Dwelling place, as will our vehicles and work places, thus, going to church is not a proper term. BEING THE CHURCH IS, and if we are the church, then everyday will be a sabbath day, every day will be a worship day, every day will be a praise day, every day will be a soul winning day, every day will be a wittnessing day, every day is the LORDS................

mike