missmuffet Posted June 13, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,994 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,692 Content Per Day: 11.75 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted June 13, 2016 This is turning into a gun thread....goodbye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayin jade Posted June 13, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 44 Topic Count: 6,178 Topics Per Day: 0.87 Content Count: 43,799 Content Per Day: 6.19 Reputation: 11,244 Days Won: 58 Joined: 01/03/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted June 13, 2016 ISIS claimed responsibility for the nightclub shooting on Sunday, saying it was “carried out by an Islamic State fighter.” Law enforcement officials also said the suspect, Omar Mateen, called 911 before the attack and swore allegiance to ISIS. https://www.yahoo.com/news/father-orlando-shooting-suspect-hosted-233326524.html?nhp=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Patriot21 Posted June 13, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 27 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 15,718 Content Per Day: 2.45 Reputation: 8,535 Days Won: 39 Joined: 10/25/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/27/1985 Share Posted June 13, 2016 4 hours ago, shiloh357 said: If some law-abiding people in that night club would have had guns, the death toll would have been much, much smaller. The thing is that they try to use these incidents to promote gun regulation, but these incidents only serve to prove WHY law-abiding people SHOULD be armed. These mass shootings always happen when only ONE person has a gun and everyone else is defenseless. If anything, it makes a case for increased gun ownership. Liberals want to make our country less safe by disarming the public. well, one could argue there was one-according to the article the guman did trade shots with a armed cop before entering the club....but, on that same note, if there had been multiple armed gunmen on hand, it would have been harder for this guy to overpower them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted June 13, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 599 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,265 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,993 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted June 13, 2016 Looking at what's going on across the world, none of this should be any surprise, not even the presidents actions should be a surprise. My question is can we exist long enough to rid ourselves of him...... and keep another female version from being elected? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 6 hours ago, ayin jade said: Not the first. The one in california was linked to someone who was pro isis. But with that too shhhhh its just "an angry person" not terrorism. Thats the problem with denial on the part of our govt. Even people who think its terrorism dont realize others have happened here that are linked to isis. I don't think ISIS took responsibility for it. They praised it, but while the shooter was pro ISIS, it was not officially labeled an ISIS attack. This one is different in that ISIS took responsibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 4 hours ago, The_Patriot2016 said: well, one could argue there was one-according to the article the guman did trade shots with a armed cop before entering the club....but, on that same note, if there had been multiple armed gunmen on hand, it would have been harder for this guy to overpower them. Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwikphilly Posted June 13, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 96 Topic Count: 307 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 18,147 Content Per Day: 4.60 Reputation: 27,843 Days Won: 327 Joined: 08/03/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted June 13, 2016 Quote You can't avoid it and no one could have prevented every death that occurred. but leaving people unarmed and defenseless isn't the answer. They need to give people a fighting chance. We need to be armed because now we have ISIS to deal with. This is the first ISIS attack on US soil. This is what we have to look forward to beause our government can't say, "Islamic terrorism." c It is a good question as to how he circumvented security. Maybe the bar didn't have good security, or maybe they didn't have armed security. If all they had was bouncers who didn't have guns, they didn't stand a chance. I believe it Shiloh,,,,,,I think we are going to see more & more of this sort of thing,,,,,,,you would think things like this would re-enforce the right to bear arms instead of the exact opposite,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,& Pat is right on target too,,,, Quote , if there had been multiple armed gunmen on hand, it would have been harder for this guy to overpower them I didn't know anything about the exchange of fire with a police officer"before" the incident actually turned into a massacre,,,,,,,,,I was thinking "how did this guy get into the club armed like that?" I was even thinking he was perhaps a "familiar face" & slipped by unnoticed,,,,,,but this changes that theory entirely,,,,,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoob57 Posted June 13, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 100 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 41,429 Content Per Day: 8.00 Reputation: 21,580 Days Won: 76 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/27/1957 Share Posted June 13, 2016 18 hours ago, bopeep1909 said: I am not even go to go the route of "gun control issues" that is a heated topic on Worthy. Not worth digging it up. you got a gun buried somewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steward George Posted June 13, 2016 Group: Steward Followers: 110 Topic Count: 10,466 Topics Per Day: 1.25 Content Count: 27,800 Content Per Day: 3.33 Reputation: 15,529 Days Won: 130 Joined: 06/30/2001 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/21/1971 Steward Share Posted June 13, 2016 http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/06/12/orlando-pulse-gay-bar-gun-free-zone-state-law/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Patriot21 Posted June 13, 2016 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 27 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 15,718 Content Per Day: 2.45 Reputation: 8,535 Days Won: 39 Joined: 10/25/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/27/1985 Share Posted June 13, 2016 3 hours ago, kwikphilly said: I believe it Shiloh,,,,,,I think we are going to see more & more of this sort of thing,,,,,,,you would think things like this would re-enforce the right to bear arms instead of the exact opposite,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,& Pat is right on target too,,,, I didn't know anything about the exchange of fire with a police officer"before" the incident actually turned into a massacre,,,,,,,,,I was thinking "how did this guy get into the club armed like that?" I was even thinking he was perhaps a "familiar face" & slipped by unnoticed,,,,,,but this changes that theory entirely,,,,,,, The security at these things wouldn't stop a gun man. Most of them do not have armed security, its as easy as shooting the gaurd and walking right in. In this case I don't know it for a fact but I do recl reading there was a armed police officer, whom he engaged and shot first, but even then a single armed gaurd won't stop him. I mean he shows up and says hey look they got a metal detector I guess I gotta go home....lol. No he's just gonna shoot the gaurd...and walk on in. Seeing how noisy most night clubs are chances are no one even heard the shot...or if they did, there's no way they'd have time to get out before he walked through the door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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