What can we learn from the virtuous woman Proverbs 31

[missmuffet]

8 hours ago, Sister said:

Hi Davida, Ezra and missmuffet

Then in your opinion the proverb is straight forward and needs no interpretation? 

Look at the introduction to proverbs, and you will see what a proverb is all about.

 Proverbs 1:1   The proverbs of Solomon the son of David, king of Israel;

  Proverbs 1:2   To know wisdom and instruction; to perceive the words of understanding;

  Proverbs 1:3   To receive the instruction of wisdom, justice, and judgment, and equity;

  Proverbs 1:4   To give subtilty to the simple, to the young man knowledge and discretion.

  Proverbs 1:5   A wise man will hear, and will increase learning; and a man of understanding shall attain unto wise counsels:

  Proverbs 1:6   To understand a proverb, and the interpretation; the words of the wise, and their dark sayings.

  Proverbs 1:7   The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.

Read the proverb literally as God has intended for us to read the Bible and see what you can in it in today's woman.

[enoob57]

12 hours ago, Sister said:

enoob57

....meaning? 

I say this parable is about the woman in Rev 12.  Her name is Zion and she is God's woman.  "She" represents God's truth, his teachings, and all the wisdom one can seek is dwelling with "her".   We either become a child of Zion, or a child of Babylon.  Both dwellings are represented by a woman who produces children, and both have their teachings and fruits.  I have come to realise that God glorifies "his truth", and likens it to a marriage that cannot be broken.  That's ok, if you want to take this proverb as a literal meaning and apply it to that, but I know that God does not praise and glorify flesh, but only his Word and truth, and we know him through this, that what he says is true.

The OP did ask "what can we learn from this", and I answered what I thought and all I got was an insult.  Seeing as I know this proverb is about "wisdom", only the type God can give us, through his woman, (not man's), I have at least enough wisdom to know that God does not like it when we scorn others.  Wisdom is not something to be taken lightly, for in it is life.

 Proverbs 31:29   Many daughters have done virtuously, but thou excellest them all.

So, the focus is on ONE WOMAN here, who excells all others.  And although many of you have excellent wives, don't forget nothing can be compared to this one.

 

Proverbs 21:11   When the scorner is punished, the simple is made wise: and when the wise is instructed, he receiveth knowledge.

Wisdom has more to it than just learning how a loyal wife does her duties well to makes her husband proud, it's actually listening to instruction on everything that comes out of God's mouth and what he has instructed us.  That's wisdom, to take heed.

 

12 hours ago, Sister said:

enoob57

....meaning? 

I say this parable is about the woman in Rev 12.  Her name is Zion and she is God's woman.

I have been given an objective source from God in written form that I am to use a hermeneutic interpretation of and then through the course of immediate context to chapter context to book context to whole of Bible context and  I will have what is written to all generations the same conclusion... The 'I say' to the past generation or to the future one will mean nothing but the hermeneutical context endures through all generations the same and it is to this we give an account of ourselves to God!  In fact we are to try the spirits to see if they align with Scripture ... this alignment is the foundation of the Christian Faith and Doctrine. Your approach to the Scriptures "I say" is at best suspect to what the Scriptures themselves say and by that I know what's what... I have a very advanced library of Godly scholars that speak to the foundational aspects of the written Word through a hermeneutical interpretive process and your conclusions are just not lining up with God's Word... Love, Steven 

[missmuffet]

20 minutes ago, enoob57 said:

 

I have been given an objective source from God in written form that I am to use a hermeneutic interpretation of and then through the course of immediate context to chapter context to book context to whole of Bible context I have what is written to all generations the same conclusion... The 'I say' to the past generation or to the future one will mean nothing but the hermeneutical context endures through all generations the same and it is to this we give an account of ourselves to God!  In fact we are to try the spirits to see if they align with Scripture ... this alignment is the foundation of the Christian Faith and Doctrine. Your approach to the Scriptures "I say" is at best suspect to what the Scriptures themselves say and by that I know what's what... I have a very advanced library of Godly scholars that speak to the foundational aspects of the written Word through a hermeneutical interpretive process and your conclusions are just not lining up with God's Word... Love, Steven 

Yep, I agree bro.

[Sister]

8 hours ago, missmuffet said:

Read the proverb literally as God has intended for us to read the Bible and see what you can in it in today's woman.

 Psalms 48:1   Great is the LORD, and greatly to be praised in the city of our God, in the mountain of his holiness.

  Psalms 48:2   Beautiful for situation, the joy of the whole earth, is mount Zion, on the sides of the north, the city of the great King.

  Psalms 48:3   God is known in her palaces for a refuge.

 Psalms 48:8   As we have heard, so have we seen in the city of the LORD of hosts, in the city of our God: God will establish it for ever. Selah.

  Psalms 48:9   We have thought of thy lovingkindness, O God, in the midst of thy temple.

  Psalms 48:10   According to thy name, O God, so is thy praise unto the ends of the earth: thy right hand is full of righteousness.

  Psalms 48:11   Let mount Zion rejoice, let the daughters of Judah be glad, because of thy judgments.

  Psalms 48:12   Walk about Zion, and go round about her: tell the towers thereof.

  Psalms 48:13   Mark ye well her bulwarks, consider her palaces; that ye may tell it to the generation following.

  Psalms 48:14   For this God is our God for ever and ever: he will be our guide

[missmuffet]

36 minutes ago, Sister said:

 Psalms 48:1   Great is the LORD, and greatly to be praised in the city of our God, in the mountain of his holiness.

  Psalms 48:2   Beautiful for situation, the joy of the whole earth, is mount Zion, on the sides of the north, the city of the great King.

  Psalms 48:3   God is known in her palaces for a refuge.

 Psalms 48:8   As we have heard, so have we seen in the city of the LORD of hosts, in the city of our God: God will establish it for ever. Selah.

  Psalms 48:9   We have thought of thy lovingkindness, O God, in the midst of thy temple.

  Psalms 48:10   According to thy name, O God, so is thy praise unto the ends of the earth: thy right hand is full of righteousness.

  Psalms 48:11   Let mount Zion rejoice, let the daughters of Judah be glad, because of thy judgments.

  Psalms 48:12   Walk about Zion, and go round about her: tell the towers thereof.

  Psalms 48:13   Mark ye well her bulwarks, consider her palaces; that ye may tell it to the generation following.

  Psalms 48:14   For this God is our God for ever and ever: he will be our guide

Since you see the Words of the Bible very differently than I do it would be futile for me to debate you.

[Sister]

3 hours ago, enoob57 said:

 

I have been given an objective source from God in written form that I am to use a hermeneutic interpretation of and then through the course of immediate context to chapter context to book context to whole of Bible context I have what is written to all generations the same conclusion... The 'I say' to the past generation or to the future one will mean nothing but the hermeneutical context endures through all generations the same and it is to this we give an account of ourselves to God!  In fact we are to try the spirits to see if they align with Scripture ... this alignment is the foundation of the Christian Faith and Doctrine. Your approach to the Scriptures "I say" is at best suspect to what the Scriptures themselves say and by that I know what's what... I have a very advanced library of Godly scholars that speak to the foundational aspects of the written Word through a hermeneutical interpretive process and your conclusions are just not lining up with God's Word... Love, Steven 

The method of interpretation is this;

Proverbs 21:11   When the scorner is punished, the simple is made wise: and when the wise is instructed, he receiveth knowledge.

Proverbs 2:6   For the LORD giveth wisdom: out of his mouth cometh knowledge and understanding.

Proverbs 2:7   He layeth up sound wisdom for the righteous: he is a buckler to them that walk uprightly.

Proverbs 5:1   My son, attend unto my wisdom, and bow thine ear to my understanding:

You have your godly scholars, the Word says we have our God for instruction, and only he can give.
 

 Proverbs 8:11   For wisdom is better than rubies; and all the things that may be desired are not to be compared to it.

 Proverbs 8:14   Counsel is mine, and sound wisdom: I am understanding; I have strength.

You preach men, we preach God.  His words, his ways.

Proverbs 9:10   The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.

Proverbs 11:2   When pride cometh, then cometh shame: but with the lowly is wisdom.

Proverbs 11:12   He that is void of wisdom despiseth his neighbour: but a man of understanding holdeth his peace.

It's quite simple, obey God's commandments and wisdom will be given, but despise his instruction, and understanding will be held back.

 

[Sister]

9 minutes ago, missmuffet said:

Since you see the Words of the Bible very differently than I do it would be futile for me to debate you.

Ok, but remember there is a special woman that exists, and she's spoken of everywhere, not just in this proverb.

 Isaiah 54:1   Sing, O barren, thou that didst not bear; break forth into singing, and cry aloud, thou that didst not travail with child: for more are the children of the desolate than the children of the married wife, saith the LORD.

[enoob57]

 

[missmuffet]

1 hour ago, Sister said:

Ok, but remember there is a special woman that exists, and she's spoken of everywhere, not just in this proverb.

 Isaiah 54:1   Sing, O barren, thou that didst not bear; break forth into singing, and cry aloud, thou that didst not travail with child: for more are the children of the desolate than the children of the married wife, saith the LORD.

 

30 minutes ago, Davida said:

lol!  Is that a confused look enoob57?

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------1Corinthians 14:33King James Version (KJV)

³³ For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

From what I have seen on Worthy lately I think my sentiments remain with enoob.

[enoob57]

1 hour ago, Davida said:

lol!  Is that a confused look enoob57?

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------1Corinthians 14:33King James Version (KJV)

³³ For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

It's desiring the solidity of God's Word in the communication process but being denied times 10