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The 600+ laws are the laws of Moses, the sacrificial, circumcision, food etc laws, which ended in Acts 15 with the exception of the 4 mentioned

One must distinguish between these laws written by Moses which ended, and were said to be a burden, and the law of God, then ten commandments which God Himself wrote on the stone tablets as per Exodus 20..

Romans 7 the law is just and Holy according to Paul.

 

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2 hours ago, heretoeternity said:

The 600+ laws are the laws of Moses, the sacrificial, circumcision, food etc laws, which ended in Acts 15 with the exception of the 4 mentioned

One must distinguish between these laws written by Moses which ended, and were said to be a burden, and the law of God, then ten commandments which God Himself wrote on the stone tablets as per Exodus 20..

Romans 7 the law is just and Holy according to Paul.

 

but they still may not get you to heaven...

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Matt 25:31-46

31 "But when the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the angels with Him, then He will sit on His glorious throne. 32 "And all the nations will be gathered before Him; and He will separate them from one another, as the shepherd separates the sheep from the goats; 33 and He will put the sheep on His right, and the goats on the left. 34 "Then the King will say to those on His right, 'Come, you who are blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. 35 'For I was hungry, and you gave Me something to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave Me drink; I was a stranger, and you invited Me in; 36 naked, and you clothed Me; I was sick, and you visited Me; I was in prison, and you came to Me.' 37 "Then the righteous will answer Him, saying, 'Lord, when did we see You hungry, and feed You, or thirsty, and give You drink? 38 'And when did we see You a stranger, and invite You in, or naked, and clothe You? 39 'And when did we see You sick, or in prison, and come to You?' 40 "And the King will answer and say to them, 'Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did it to one of these brothers of Mine, even the least of them, you did it to Me.' 41 "Then He will also say to those on His left, 'Depart from Me, accursed ones, into the eternal fire which has been prepared for the devil and his angels; 42 for I was hungry, and you gave Me nothing to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave Me nothing to drink; 43 I was a stranger, and you did not invite Me in; naked, and you did not clothe Me; sick, and in prison, and you did not visit Me.' 44 "Then they themselves also will answer, saying, 'Lord, when did we see You hungry, or thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not take care of You?' 45 "Then He will answer them, saying, 'Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.' 46 "And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life."
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look closely at those people who are not being allowed into eternal life and tell me which of the ten commandments they broke.

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12 hours ago, other one said:

that's true, I agree.   You can follow Jesus or you can follow Moses....

Guess who I picked?

JOHN 5 [45] Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust.[46] For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.[47] BUT IF YE BELIEVE NOT HIS WRITINGS, HOW SHALL YE BELIEVE MY WORDS?

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18 hours ago, other one said:

but they still may not get you to heaven...

look closely at those people who are not being allowed into eternal life and tell me which of the ten commandments they broke.

They apparently did not have the love of God in their hearts, Love God (the first four of the ten commandments) and Love for your neighbour (the last six of the ten commandments...Love of God includes keeping the fourth commandments, as James said in James 2 if you break on of the commandments you break them all,

Now who you going to follow,  satan through a pope of the fourth century who ensnared the christian world in the day of the sungod worship sunday, the first day of the week?   Or follow God who created, commanded and made Holy the seventh day of the week?   I will stick with following God, and His Holy day.

 

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7 hours ago, heretoeternity said:

They apparently did not have the love of God in their hearts, Love God (the first four of the ten commandments) and Love for your neighbour (the last six of the ten commandments...Love of God includes keeping the fourth commandments, as James said in James 2 if you break on of the commandments you break them all,

Now who you going to follow,  satan through a pope of the fourth century who ensnared the christian world in the day of the sungod worship sunday, the first day of the week?   Or follow God who created, commanded and made Holy the seventh day of the week?   I will stick with following God, and His Holy day.

 

I'm going to follow Jesus, not Moses.....    Moses does not lead one to eternal life.    And that's about all I have to say about it.

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1 hour ago, other one said:

I'm going to follow Jesus, not Moses.....    Moses does not lead one to eternal life.  

Really? Your gonna follow Jesus?

Matthew 19:16-19 (KJV)
16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,
19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
 

 

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4 minutes ago, WailingWall said:

Really? Your gonna follow Jesus?

Matthew 19:16-19 (KJV)
16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,
19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
 

 

 

John 14:6  Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

 

Yes, I too follow Jesus, no man has been able to keep the commandments, and be perfect, except Jesus.  

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1 minute ago, hmbld said:

John 14:6  Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

 

Yes, I too follow Jesus, no man has been able to keep the commandments, and be perfect, except Jesus.  

and it is His life of perfection imputed to us... why every knee shall bow->  who cannot worship a Person Who gives everything for absolutely nothing!

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11 hours ago, other one said:

I'm going to follow Jesus, not Moses.....    Moses does not lead one to eternal life.    And that's about all I have to say about it.

You are right, follow Jesus through God's forgiving grace and commandments....Moses was just the messenger, and cannot save anyone..the papacy and it's non Biblical days cannot save anyone either

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