disproving evolution in 5 minutes or less

[one.opinion]

7 hours ago, ARGOSY said:

the evidence favors the sudden appearance of multiple species, then species radiating out of Siberia and later from Turkey.

I’m still very interested in the evidence supporting species radiation from Siberia and Turkey within the last 6000 years.

[ARGOSY]

5 hours ago, one.opinion said:

The fluctuations were minimal and not in any of the isotopes used for isochronic dating.

Please provide any supporting evidence of this hypothesis.

I never put forward any hypothesis. I merely asked two questions. They studied a minimal effect on short life isotopes, but what was the effect on long life isotopes? And would historical changes to the magnetic field also have an effect on decay rates considering these rates are affected by solar flares, and the magnetic fields protects us from solar radiation?

If you have no clear answers to both those questions then you cannot be confident in the time frames you suggest, they are mere theoretical timeframes based on the old fashioned idea that decay rates are constant. 

[ARGOSY]

5 hours ago, one.opinion said:

I’m still very interested in the evidence supporting species radiation from Siberia and Turkey within the last 6000 years.

Oldest skeletal remains in Siberia:  https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.astrobio.net/alien-life/siberian-paleontologists-discovered-the-oldest-macro-skeleton-remains/amp/

Wikipedia "All trilobites are thought to have originated in present-day Siberia, with subsequent distribution and radiation from this location."

Denisovans, a pre-Neanderthal race was there:

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2015/09/siberian-cave-was-home-generations-mysterious-ancient-humans

 

Ediacaran biota is mainly from east Siberia and Eastern Europe:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/253342521_First_report_of_a_newly_discovered_Ediacaran_biota_from_the_Irkineeva_Uplift_East_Siberia

 

If you look at the Y haplogroup world map, the greatest human genetic diversity occurs in Southern Turkey/ northern Iraq

Scientists are puzzled why a number of extinct and early mammal species first appearance was  concentrated in a certain location in Turkey:

https://news.ku.edu/2015/08/10/research-mammal-evolution-focuses-pivotal-eocene-interval-turkey

 

The first temple is in Turkey:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Göbekli_Tepe

 

So we have this strange phenomenon of human civilisation and early mammals appearing in Turkey. With no fossil precursors for all those mammals. Just out of nowhere, multiple species appear there and nowhere else and go extinct with no trace where they came from. 

Edited April 11, 2019 by ARGOSY

[one.opinion]

7 hours ago, ARGOSY said:

If you have no clear answers to both those questions then you cannot be confident in the time frames you suggest, they are mere theoretical timeframes based on the old fashioned idea that decay rates are constant. 

The fact that independent radiometric testing using different isotopes consistently gives similar age estimates is sufficient reason for confidence. The Purdue study (which has not been reproduced, to my knowledge), indicated a fluctuation of perhaps 0.1% in decay rates - obviously insufficient to significantly alter radiometric dating techniques. There is no sufficient evidence to the contrary. Science is based on evidence, not hypothesis unsupported by evidence.

[one.opinion]

6 hours ago, ARGOSY said:

Oldest skeletal remains in Siberia:  https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.astrobio.net/alien-life/siberian-paleontologists-discovered-the-oldest-macro-skeleton-remains/amp/

Wikipedia "All trilobites are thought to have originated in present-day Siberia, with subsequent distribution and radiation from this location."

Denisovans, a pre-Neanderthal race was there:

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2015/09/siberian-cave-was-home-generations-mysterious-ancient-humans

 

Ediacaran biota is mainly from east Siberia and Eastern Europe:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/253342521_First_report_of_a_newly_discovered_Ediacaran_biota_from_the_Irkineeva_Uplift_East_Siberia

 

If you look at the Y haplogroup world map, the greatest human genetic diversity occurs in Southern Turkey/ northern Iraq

Scientists are puzzled why a number of extinct and early mammal species first appearance was  concentrated in a certain location in Turkey:

https://news.ku.edu/2015/08/10/research-mammal-evolution-focuses-pivotal-eocene-interval-turkey

 

The first temple is in Turkey:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Göbekli_Tepe

 

So we have this strange phenomenon of human civilisation and early mammals appearing in Turkey. With no fossil precursors for all those mammals. Just out of nowhere, multiple species appear there and nowhere else and go extinct with no trace where they came from. 

Great, you have supplied some interesting pieces of work, but what you are lacking is any sort of evidence that these all occurred within the last 6000 years.

[ARGOSY]

28 minutes ago, one.opinion said:

The fact that independent radiometric testing using different isotopes consistently gives similar age estimates is sufficient reason for confidence. The Purdue study (which has not been reproduced, to my knowledge), indicated a fluctuation of perhaps 0.1% in decay rates - obviously insufficient to significantly alter radiometric dating techniques. There is no sufficient evidence to the contrary. Science is based on evidence, not hypothesis unsupported by evidence.

You are not facing the fact that the measured changes were for short-life isotopes. What is the Purdue effect on long life isotopes?  You should be curious about this, because it can put the entire concept of radiometric dating into jeopardy.  You refer to date consensus, I agree in some cases there is consensus and therefore radiometric dating is a reasonable measurement of RELATIVE timescales. But no-one actually knows how the Purdue effect, affects long-life istotopes so the actual dates are completely in doubt.  

In addition if a sudden slight increase of solar radiation can SLOW decay, what effect will a permanent blockage of much solar radiation have during times of increased magnetic field strength?  May I suggest a sure-fire method on how to face these questions?  Insist you are correct with no evidence to support your position, and put your head-in-the-sand. It's working for you so far  

In the meantime radiometric dating is completely in doubt. Uncertain territory. 

[ARGOSY]

33 minutes ago, one.opinion said:

Great, you have supplied some interesting pieces of work, but what you are lacking is any sort of evidence that these all occurred within the last 6000 years.

I don't have to prove time-periods, because radiometric dating is in doubt.  

[one.opinion]

19 minutes ago, ARGOSY said:

You are not facing the fact that the measured changes were for short-life isotopes. What is the Purdue effect on long life isotopes?

And you are not facing the fact that there is ZERO evidence that suggests that current radiometric dating techniques are not dependable.

[one.opinion]

19 minutes ago, ARGOSY said:

I don't have to prove time-periods, because radiometric dating is in doubt. 

There is no evidence indicating it is in doubt. If you choose to disagree with the evidence, it is a matter of faith, not science. It is unreasonable to scientifically disagree without a reason to do so. It is important to recognize that a belief in Young Earth Creation is due to your faith, not due to contradictory scientific evidence.

[ARGOSY]

Just now, one.opinion said:

And you are not facing the fact that there is ZERO evidence that suggests that current radiometric dating techniques are not dependable.

 

Let us agree to disagree, the Purdue effect was minor on short-life isotopes, we don't know it's effect on long-life isotopes, so the Purdue effect puts great doubt on the dependability of long-life isotopes until the effect is measured.  And magnetic fields have to be taken into account, because the Purdue effect is based on changes to the penetration of solar radiation, and magnetic fields have a strong  influence on the penetration of solar radiation.