The deceived and the deceiver

[PetriFB64]

The deceived and the deceiver! Why should we address these matters and write about them? The Lord Jesus told us to beware of deceivers and false prophets in the last days. That is why we, too, must address these matters and write about them, while keeping in mind that we need to address the matters in a loving, gentle way, highlighting Bible truth and glorifying the Lord Jesus. The Bible also says that in the final days of the end of days, many Christians will give up Bible truth and, in their apostasy, they will start following demonic spirits and doctrines of demons, while still thinking that they believe in Jesus even though they have given up the truth and exchanged the truth for lies. That is why we, too, must address these matters so that we would not get lost and so that those who have gotten lost would be able to repent and again believe in Jesus in accordance with what the Bible teaches.

More info: http://www.kotipetripaavola.com/deceivedanddeceiver.html

 

[JohnD]

The point begs the question...

how far does the deception go?

What burned me out most in the apologetics ministry was not the opposition from the enemy, but the combatants in my own faith who opposed the very scriptures I pointed out to them. 

Many times the greatest adversaries are legit born again believers who are unwittingly doing the devil's work because they are deceived into thinking it's the LORD's work.

{{SIGH}}

Dare we begin to stretch the Bible out along side Church traditions, doctrines, platforms etc. to reveal just how deeply the deception runs?

 

 

[JohnD]

Point being, deception outside "the Church" is a given.

Where it matters is inside "the Church."

[TheMatrixHasU71]

5 hours ago, PetriFB64 said:

The deceived and the deceiver! Why should we address these matters and write about them? The Lord Jesus told us to beware of deceivers and false prophets in the last days. That is why we, too, must address these matters and write about them, while keeping in mind that we need to address the matters in a loving, gentle way, highlighting Bible truth and glorifying the Lord Jesus. The Bible also says that in the final days of the end of days, many Christians will give up Bible truth and, in their apostasy, they will start following demonic spirits and doctrines of demons, while still thinking that they believe in Jesus even though they have given up the truth and exchanged the truth for lies. That is why we, too, must address these matters so that we would not get lost and so that those who have gotten lost would be able to repent and again believe in Jesus in accordance with what the Bible teaches.

More info: http://www.kotipetripaavola.com/deceivedanddeceiver.html

 

Your quote makes me think of the likes of Joel Osteen. Handsome guy, beautiful wife, fine expensive clothes; its all about looks with people like them....they preach the trash that they do and people who follow them come away believing they can be just like them

[warrior12]

46 minutes ago, JohnD said:

The point begs the question...

how far does the deception go?

What burned me out most in the apologetics ministry was not the opposition from the enemy, but the combatants in my own faith who opposed the very scriptures I pointed out to them. 

Many times the greatest adversaries are legit born again believers who are unwittingly doing the devil's work because they are deceived into thinking it's the LORD's work.

{{SIGH}}

Dare we begin to stretch the Bible out along side Church traditions, doctrines, platforms etc. to reveal just how deeply the deception runs?

 

 

So a follow up question to your thoughts.  When a believer is born again, he is supposed to have the indwelt Holy Spirit to teach and guide him along the way of his Christian walk.  He is also helped in supernatural, spiritual way to avoid the pitfalls and traps set by the enemy.  How then, does he become entangled in false doctrines and led away ?.  What may be some leading factors in him going astray and not following the narrow pathways .  What are your thoughts.

[Ezra]

8 hours ago, warrior12 said:

What may be some leading factors in him going astray and not following the narrow pathways .

Babes in Christ do not become mature adults overnight. Unless they are properly discipled and taught how to study the Word, beginning with the milk and moving on to the meat, they will be easily deceived and side-tracked.  Most churches today do not have a plan for systematically teaching Bible truth and Gospel truth. Much of the preaching is shallow, not Bible-based.  Some preachers are even plagiarizing the sermons of others, rather than doing the hard work necessary to do a proper job.  That is why you see so many weird ideas being promoted on Christian forums.

[JohnD]

On 3/9/2017 at 11:04 AM, warrior12 said:

So a follow up question to your thoughts.  When a believer is born again, he is supposed to have the indwelt Holy Spirit to teach and guide him along the way of his Christian walk.  He is also helped in supernatural, spiritual way to avoid the pitfalls and traps set by the enemy.  How then, does he become entangled in false doctrines and led away ?.  What may be some leading factors in him going astray and not following the narrow pathways .  What are your thoughts.

Listening to the Holy Spirit is a choice.

[JTC]

I clicked on the link given and started reading the page and stopped pretty quickly because it's all false teaching. I mean the stuff on the page that link goes to. It's ridiculous, it has nothing to do with God.