Spiritual gift section for the gifted

[Jaydog1976]

9 hours ago, Opywang said:

Thank you so much for speaking out!

This is why I am here I am here to figure out what God want from me.

I've been isolating, and censorship.

Now for the first time in 10 years I've not been isolated, and thank you everybody for giving me a chance to speak, and a chance to learn!

I've been banned in ever Christian community, and they banned me so fast it's getting to the point of where I post my first post, and I'm not getting any answer, but finding myself banned.

Y'all have tolerated me, and I want to say thank you for tolerating me, and I still have much to learn, and I have much to become settle in due to lack of socialization, and love.



 

Opywang you will find that most of the regulars here on the forum are pretty reasonable and I haven't really seen them be mean or rude. Now I have seen them ask some really good tough questions. I have had them ask me tough questions before and it is good because it helps you learn. 

Now while I am not in totally agreement with your ability to feel spirits or see them or whatever, I won't deny that some may have that gift. The only thing I would caution you on is that there are many out there that claim to see and hear the same things you do but clearly do not know God or who He is. They aren't in the Word or anything. I know you are trying to learn and the best way to learn is to learn from God's Word. If we want to know what God truly wants from us it can only be learned from the scriptures.

Opywang now I had asked a question in an earlier response in this thread. The question was: How much time do you spend in God's Word? Do you spend time in it daily? As was said in early responses you can only know what God wants if you spend time learning what He wants. 

Opywang not sure what this statement means "I've been isolating, and censorship." but I think I may have an idea. I know you want to learn but are you willing to listen to what is being said by everyone who is responding to you? I think that is important. Learning can only come by listening and even meditating on what has been said. 

Hope you find the answer to whatever is bothering you Opywang. But I can tell you this the answers you are looking for are not from this forum but from God's Word. 

Just some thoughts.

[Jaydog1976]

8 hours ago, warrior12 said:

Well, as long as you post reasonable questions, i for one would not neglect you and reject or call you names.  Everyone has to answer for the words they speak, as the righteous judge looks on.  We have to be truthful in our witness and our Christian walk with our allotted time bestowed upon us by our gracious Lord.  So, why not we use this time to speak and encourage one another.    

Don't be afraid to ask your questions. You would find though, that when you attempt to express your spiritual experiences that may not be normal for others, you may encounter tough questions and replies, that you must be ready to answer favorably.  I can say for sure, that the spiritual world of entities does exist in ways that for those who has not have the experience, it would sound foolish, but nevertheless it is real as the sun that rises every morning.  The Lord is my witness to the previous line i wrote here and therefore i have to give an account for it.

Spiritual experiences are good when they are in line with scripture. Watching these guys on television claiming to have spiritual experiences are scary and downright concerning to say the least. The scary "spiritual experiences" that I mentioned overshadow the good experiences causing a loss in credibility of the good experiences. It's the one bad apple ruins the whole bunch. I think though that if it is truly from God then it will pass the test of vetting if against scripture. 

I don't believe that the spiritual things that Opywang is experiencing is biblical but then again I err on the side of caution. However I do not deny that these experiences may exist in the right context and setting. 

Just some thoughts.

[warrior12]

2 hours ago, Jaydog1976 said:

Spiritual experiences are good when they are in line with scripture. Watching these guys on television claiming to have spiritual experiences are scary and downright concerning to say the least. The scary "spiritual experiences" that I mentioned overshadow the good experiences causing a loss in credibility of the good experiences. It's the one bad apple ruins the whole bunch. I think though that if it is truly from God then it will pass the test of vetting if against scripture. 

I don't believe that the spiritual things that Opywang is experiencing is biblical but then again I err on the side of caution. However I do not deny that these experiences may exist in the right context and setting. 

Just some thoughts.

Yes, there are counterfeits in the spiritual realm  that comes in to deceive and manipulate man, even Christians, the reason Paul emphatically states that we are to put on the full armor of God.  That however does not eliminate the fact that this world exist and the Bible speaks of it as Jesus casting out demons that possessed and afflicted men.  Paul also had some encounters also.  

The thing is, spiritual is what it is, you cannot show someone this world, only try your best to explain what your encounter have been or is occurring.   There are many people out there hurting from the unknown as to what has happened to their life and many still trying to find out the sources of these manifestations ect.  Many are in institutions, where their only comfort is the medications that they are given to calm the senses.   But i want again to put it plainly,  this world exist and be it gifts from God or oppression from demonic forces, many people are witnesses to this world.  After all, our faith is a spiritual walk, with many who believe that only by reading the Bible ,   spiritual knowledge is known.  But i want to  say plainly again, there are events and things taking place that can be even termed prophetical that is taking place that men are being either shown or embroiled in the battlefield that the Lord may have placed them in.   

Opywang being near God, is a profound statement, but he has to  be held accountable for his words.  I have had spiritual battles, but nothing of seeing things ect.   Bodily, sensual and other occurrences are real and want to state also, magic, sorcery and witchcraft are present in our world today.  Hope this clears up a clear statement about the spiritual life here. 

[No124get1952]

Spiritual gifts are gifts from God, given to his saints to deal with something that is happening in their lives. Sometimes those gifts are temporary, meant for the situation at hand. Sometimes those gifts are permanent, given for the strength and edification of the believer and those they choose to share them with. In ALL cases, the gifts are to glorify God.

This is one of the primary discernment factors that help us "test the spirits". According to I John4, every spirit that confesses Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God; every spirit that does not confess that fact, is NOT of God. So we, as believers, have the right and responsibility to question the spirits (or gifts, if you will) and discern whether they are of God.

Please note that this "testing of spirits" is intended to be a personal activity. It is not intended for public consumption. Those who attempt to do this in public are not operating according to Scripture. I cannot judge whether their gifts or their "spirits" are of God. My reaction would be to pray and judge the results. If God is given the glory and the fruits of the spirit follow, then I walk in grace. If they do not, then I ask God to deal with them and give me the opportunity to minister to those who are wounded or remain unhealed.

I have witnessed miraculous things that I did not expect God would ever do. God did them out of His sovereignty and for the purpose of showing His healing love for His hurting children. Many things I cannot share because I cannot prove them by any scripture other than Jeremiah 33:3, come unto me and I will show you great and mighty things thou knowest not. God did them. I saw them. And I saw the fruits of what God did. And I am very grateful God allowed me to participate and witness.

In general, I find it dangerous to limit Yahweh. He can do exceedingly abundantly above all that we ask or think.

[Jaydog1976]

8 minutes ago, No124get1952 said:

Spiritual gifts are gifts from God, given to his saints to deal with something that is happening in their lives. Sometimes those gifts are temporary, meant for the situation at hand. Sometimes those gifts are permanent, given for the strength and edification of the believer and those they choose to share them with. In ALL cases, the gifts are to glorify God.

This is one of the primary discernment factors that help us "test the spirits". According to I John4, every spirit that confesses Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God; every spirit that does not confess that fact, is NOT of God. So we, as believers, have the right and responsibility to question the spirits (or gifts, if you will) and discern whether they are of God.

Please note that this "testing of spirits" is intended to be a personal activity. It is not intended for public consumption. Those who attempt to do this in public are not operating according to Scripture. I cannot judge whether their gifts or their "spirits" are of God. My reaction would be to pray and judge the results. If God is given the glory and the fruits of the spirit follow, then I walk in grace. If they do not, then I ask God to deal with them and give me the opportunity to minister to those who are wounded or remain unhealed.

I have witnessed miraculous things that I did not expect God would ever do. God did them out of His sovereignty and for the purpose of showing His healing love for His hurting children. Many things I cannot share because I cannot prove them by any scripture other than Jeremiah 33:3, come unto me and I will show you great and mighty things thou knowest not. God did them. I saw them. And I saw the fruits of what God did. And I am very grateful God allowed me to participate and witness.

In general, I find it dangerous to limit Yahweh. He can do exceedingly abundantly above all that we ask or think.

I hope that my post to Warrior was not an indication that I was limiting God. Because I sure wasn't not even close. I do believe that God does great and mighty things in this age. However my point was that if we do experience something along the lines of what Opywang says is happening to him then we need to just compare it with scripture and see if it lines up. But I totally agree that God is not limited and I do not deny that God works in wonderful ways. 

[No124get1952]

No problem. When we experience things like this, we have to be careful to give them their rightful interpretation. The basis of that is the Scripture.

[warrior12]

2 minutes ago, Jaydog1976 said:

I hope that my post to Warrior was not an indication that I was limiting God. Because I sure wasn't not even close. I do believe that God does great and mighty things in this age. However my point was that if we do experience something along the lines of what Opywang says is happening to him then we need to just compare it with scripture and see if it lines up. But I totally agree that God is not limited and I do not deny that God works in wonderful ways. 

Hey Jaydog1976.   At least i did not see it that way. I just replied to state that the spiritual realm can be complex to comprehend for those who have not had any type of encounters and i just wanted to reinforce the fact, at least in my experience that i have indeed been in battles that are not imaginary but very real.  No ill feelings taken Jaydog1976, your post are thoughtful and appreciative.

[Jaydog1976]

Just now, warrior12 said:

Hey Jaydog1976.   At least i did not see it that way. I just replied to state that the spiritual realm can be complex to comprehend for those who have not had any type of encounters and i just wanted to reinforce the fact, at least in my experience that i have indeed been in battles that are not imaginary but very real.  No ill feelings taken Jaydog1976, your post are thoughtful and appreciative.

No worries. I just wanted to make it clear that was not my intent. And thanks for the kind words.