The Book of Enoch

[MorningGlory]

On 12/4/2017 at 3:05 AM, Jude1:3 said:

 

From:  https://www.christianforums.com/threads/the-book-of-enoch.7434497/

 

Reasons for accepting the Book of Enoch as the writing of the Biblical Enoch:

1. Because of the fulfilled Messianic prophecies in its pages
2. Because it answers so many questions raised by study of the Bible but not answered therein: 

• The nature of the sin of the "sons of God" in Genesis 6
• The curious origin of the Old Testament giants
• The origin of demons (which is) never expressly stated in the Bible
• The pervasive use by Christ of the term "the Son of Man"
• The nature of the angels' sin mentioned in Jude and 2 Peter 2
• The sending of the scapegoat to Azazel in Leviticus 16
• Jude's classification of Enoch as a prophet which is not mentioned elsewhere in the Bible
• It shows where Jude got his quote from Enoch 1:9
• The origin and purpose of St. John's enigmatic "Bottomless Pit"
• It provides an ostensible framework for understanding the yet future 1,000-year earthly rule of Christ

3. Because it is demonstrably ancient and was in wide use, respected as valid among many among the people to whom our Lord came
4. Because its authenticity as the source for Jude's quote has been vindicated by the Dead Sea Scrolls
5. Because of the many external references to it by other pre-Christian Jewish books
6. Because of the persistent testimony to its worth as Scripture by an ancient communion of Christian Orthodoxy
7. Because Jude the half-brother of Christ testifies to its being the very words of Enoch, who Jude classifies a prophet
8. Because I believe the Book of Revelation was truly revealed by God to John, and the Book of Enoch contained many of the same revealed items before John wrote his book

 

We cannot accept a book that God did not cause to be included in the Bible.  The Book of Enoch is not even proven to be genuine nor is the date of it's writing.  It is NOT Scripture and never will be.

[MorningGlory]

On 12/3/2017 at 10:21 PM, Jude1:3 said:

 

And that is why 1 Enoch is and has always been scripture.

 

It was first Officially rejected at The Council of Jamnia in (70–90 A.D.)  By Hebrews Who Specifically Excluded Other Hebrews that believed Yeshua was The Messiah from the Council. They rejected 1 Enoch because it was leading so many Hebrews to The Lord Jesus Christ :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_Jamnia

 

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Once again, Wikipedia is not accepted by most as reliable.

[Steve_K]

6 hours ago, MorningGlory said:

We cannot accept a book that God did not cause to be included in the Bible.  The Book of Enoch is not even proven to be genuine nor is the date of it's writing.  It is NOT Scripture and never will be.

And therefore irrelevant. 

[Jude1:3]

21 minutes ago, MorningGlory said:

Once again, Wikipedia is not accepted by most as reliable.

 

It is for basic information and I'm going to keep using it.

[Jude1:3]

26 minutes ago, MorningGlory said:

We cannot accept a book that God did not cause to be included in the Bible.  The Book of Enoch is not even proven to be genuine nor is the date of it's writing.  It is NOT Scripture and never will be.

 

Evil Men did not cause it to be included in the Bible. It was scripture Before "The Council" of Jamnia in (70–90 A.D.)

The Essenes used it as scripture before that "Council".

[MorningGlory]

1 hour ago, Jude1:3 said:

 

It is for basic information and I'm going to keep using it.

Well that's your right, Jude.  As long as you realize that most people disregard anything from Wikipedia. 

[MorningGlory]

1 hour ago, Jude1:3 said:

 

Evil Men did not cause it to be included in the Bible. It was scripture Before "The Council" of Jamnia in (70–90 A.D.)

The Essenes used it as scripture before that "Council".

How do you know 'evil men' prevented it from being included? Where does that statement come from? How do you explain the fact that God would have caused the Book of Enoch to be included if that was what He wanted? 

[MorningGlory]

2 hours ago, Steve_K said:

And therefore irrelevant. 

Yes, exactly.  If it wasn't relevant to God why would WE consider it so?

[Jude1:3]

3 hours ago, MorningGlory said:

How do you explain the fact that God would have caused the Book of Enoch to be included if that was what He wanted? 

 

Well, it is included in "One" of the Ancient Christian Church's Official Biblical Canons. The Ethiopian Orthodox has it:

 http://www.ethiopianorthodox.org/english/canonical/books.html

[Jude1:3]

More of 1 Enoch that Glorifies Yeshua Messiah:

 

On that day Mine Elect One shall sit on the throne of glory
And shall try their works,
And their places of rest shall be innumerable.

And their souls shall grow strong within them when they see Mine Elect Ones,
And those who have called upon My glorious name:
 Then will I cause Mine Elect One to dwell among them.

And I will transform the heaven and make it an eternal blessing and light
 • 1 Enoch 45:3-4

 

 

http://reluctant-messenger.com/book_of_enoch.htm