when we die

[bukeye2745]

It's ok dude. But from you saying that and that only leads me to believe you were not being nice. At least that's what I'm used to on most forums. Sorry if I misunderstood.

I'm pretty sure they agree with my beliefs on heaven.

By the way, I'm a dudette.

[Gerioke]

It's ok dude.  But from you saying that and that only leads me to believe you were not being nice.  At least that's what I'm used to on most forums.  Sorry if I misunderstood. 

I'm pretty sure they agree with my beliefs on heaven.

By the way, I'm a dudette.

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ahhh... once again I aplogize.

If you go by names here , nearly everyone is gender neutral

[Guest ANGELLOVE]

I do not see how we go straight to hell if we have sinned, remember all will be judged in front of God when the names are read in the book of life. I have always thought we go straight to heaven but if all must wait till the names are read then it would seem likely we all must sleep untuill that time. That is only my opinon after reading these other posts , it got me thinking. So now Im not so sure what I thought before is right, oh well either way the rightous will be with the Lord one way or the other.

[dwinkjr]

I do not see how we go straight to hell if we have sinned, remember all will be judged in front of God when the names are read in the book of life. I have always thought we go straight to heaven but if all must wait till the names are read then it would seem likely we all must sleep untuill that time. That is only my opinon after reading these other posts , it got me thinking. So now Im not so sure what I thought before is right, oh well either way the rightous will be with the Lord one way or the other.

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Angel,

It is my understanding from scripture that Hell is a temporary place and even Hell will be cast into the Lake of fire after the great white throne judgement. The lake of fire is the place of eternal torment.

Rev 20:14 Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire.

God Bless,

Dave

[Guest AllHeart]

Just thought I'd throw this in while we are on the subject of the second death....the lake of burning fire.....In Daniel it says that a riverof fire flows from the throne of God....God IS an all consuming Holy fire,which anything that is not holy will burn.....so realy ,a person who dies without Jesus will automaticaly start "burning" the moment they stand before God....it's His nature......He is a loving God and sends no one to eternal punishment....eternal punishment is not a "place" but a wrong standing with God which you will never beable to change once you enter His presence.You will not beable to get rid of your sin once you die without Christ therefore you will constantly burn in His presence.....forever!.......this is why it is SO important to accept Jesus,there is NO other way,no grey areas,for all that is sinful( every thing that is imperfect compared to God) will burn.

[bukeye2745]

The lake of fire is not eternal torment. It is death period. It's the second death for those who do not raise in Messiah.

The day cometh, that shall burn as an oven...shall burn them up, saith the Lord of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch. Mal 4:1

The wicked shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. Rev 21:8

Thou shalt make them as a fiery oven...the fire shall devour them. Psa 21:9

They shall be destroyed for ever Psa 92:7

Is not destruction to the wicked? Job 31:3

Speaking of the resurrection

Every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people Acts 3:23

In other words, if you don't rise when Yeshua comes, you don't rise until judgement and then you will be destroyed.

Jen

[ann2]

SuperJew can you tell me what the jewish definitation of "paradise" is.