JESUS IS GOD

[warrior12]

17 minutes ago, fixerupper said:

For Jesus to be Savior, he had to die and be resurrected, that's what was prophesied, and that's what he did.

 

Colossians 1      King James Version (KJV)

¹³ Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:

¹⁴ In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:

¹⁵ Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

¹⁶ For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

¹⁷ And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

¹⁸ And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.

¹⁹ For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;

[Your closest friendnt]

45 minutes ago, shiloh357 said:

For Jesus to be the Savior, Jesus needs to be God. 

Only a man in the likeness of Adam, could be the Savior. 

Moses said the Lord God will sent someone else ,  later on, him is the one you should follow, do what he will tell you. (That means he will not follow me, or as we know, he will bring his own , a different covenant than mine. Someone like you, one of you. 

[fixerupper]

9 minutes ago, shiloh357 said:

Only God can pay the penalty for man's sin.   Jesus was truly man and truly God.   Yes Jesus died, and yes He was resurrected.  That doesn't mitigate against Him being God.

God sent his SON to pay the penalty for sin.  It doesn't mitigate against Jesus being God because he's not fully God and said so himself!  There is no trinitarian formula in the bible, and there is no salvation formula saying one must believe Jesus is God.  It's all fabrication.

[fixerupper]

4 minutes ago, Yowm said:

This by definition is nonsensical.

1. There is only one God...the Father/Son and  Holy Spirit...One God, not two.

I never said two Gods.  You haven't read my replies.  I said they are of the same mind and purpose, and that God the Father is Greater than the son of God.  Jesus said so himself.

[fixerupper]

9 minutes ago, Yowm said:

This by definition is nonsensical.

1. There is only one God...the Father/Son and  Holy Spirit...One God, not two.

My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.

Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come againunto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

Edited June 25, 2017 by fixerupper

[fixerupper]

2 minutes ago, Yowm said:

You did say, "Jesus is God, but God is Greater". You don't see how contradictory or nonsensical that is?

Did you say something about scripture being senseless...

My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.

Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

 

Edited June 25, 2017 by fixerupper

[Guest shiloh357]

6 minutes ago, fixerupper said:

God sent his SON to pay the penalty for sin.  It doesn't mitigate against Jesus being God because he's not fully God and said so himself!  There is no trinitarian formula in the bible, and there is no salvation formula saying one must believe Jesus is God.  It's all fabrication.

Jesus as God's Son is God.  Jesus is fully God and fully man.  Jesus never denied being God in whole or in part.  Yes, one must believe Jesus is God.  That is essential biblical doctrine.  Rejecting the biblical truth that Jesus is God places one outside of the Kingdom of God.

[fixerupper]

Just now, Yowm said:

So you meant to say, 'Jesus  is God, but God the Father is greater than God the Son in (redemptive) purpose?

No.  Jesus isn't called God the Son.  He is the son of God.  Get it right would you!

[fixerupper]

What problems are you having understanding that Jesus said God is greater?  I know!  You've accepted false and fabricated doctrine!

[fixerupper]

3 minutes ago, Yowm said:

You've already asserted Jesus is not fully God. Are you Jehovah Witness? Are you able to worship Jesus like Thomas and John did?

First of all I'm not a JW, but have more respect for them than I do trinitarian Protestants.  And Thomas calling Jesus God doesn't mean it takes anything away from, or adds anything to Jesus' declaration that God is greater or that he, Jesus, isn't fully God.  If you say he is, throw away all your bibles because that means the bible is a completely contradictory book.