EVIDENCE FOR CREATION in 6 DAYS in 4074 BC

[KiwiChristian]

Evidence for creation in 6 days around 7,000 years ago.

reprinted with permission from Pastor Keith Piper. https://www.libertybaptistchurch.org.au/
 

 

92._EVIDENCE_FOR_CREATION_in_6_DAYS_in_4074_BC.pdf

Edited June 29, 2017 by KiwiChristian

[OneLight]

Link to your pdf does not work.  It is also part of a book for sale.  Who wrote it?  Where is the link to their site/information?

[KiwiChristian]

oops, i forgot, they are re-doing the site. the book is available to read free online, but the site is temp. down.

 

the answer is in the link. 

Edited June 29, 2017 by KiwiChristian

[OneLight]

The link in your OP is pointing to a PDF file you uploaded to this site, not to any external site.   People do not have access to any documents uploaded and I am not sure why.  It'd be better to link to the page itself, using the URL.

[Neighbor]

While I find that I endorse the evidences of a New ( young ) Earth, having  spent a few months on the subject in a class setting, obviously there are many additional versions of  God's timing. One of which tries to embrace both evidence for a young and an old earth, reconciling that theory to the Bible.

There is a book and some video on the subject  of Gerald Schroeder's work.  He was a guest of Zola Levitt a few times and did a presentation  on Levitt presents the link to it is https://www.levitt.tv/media/watch/669  

I found the presentation of interest at the time, and still do. Also see;

"Proof of God in five minutes" by Gerald Schroeder http://geraldschroeder.com/wordpress/?page_id=211

It will also  provide a visual guideline to creation's timing.

Also see; http://www.geraldschroeder.com/AgeUniverse.aspx a short but insightful and detailed presentation on creation 15 billion years of six days.

Edited June 29, 2017 by Neighbor

[Neighbor]

One paragraph from the work of Gerald Schroeder link listed in the previous post by  Neighbor

The Creation of Time

Each day of creation is numbered. Yet Nahmanides points out that there is discontinuity in the way the days are numbered. The verse says: "There is evening and morning, Day One." But the second day doesn't say "evening and morning, Day Two." Rather, it says "evening and morning, a second day." And the Torah continues with this pattern: "Evening and morning, a third day... a fourth day... a fifth day... the sixth day." Only on the first day does the text use a different form: not "first day," but "Day One" ("Yom Echad"). Many English translations that make the mistake of writing "a first day." That's because editors want things to be nice and consistent. But they throw out the cosmic message in the text! That message, as Nahmanides points out, is that there is a qualitative difference between "one" and "first." One is absolute; first is comparative. The Torah could not write “a first day” on the first day because there had not yet been a second day relative to it. Had the perspective of the Bible for the first six days been from Sinai looking back, the Torah would have written a first day. By the time the Torah was given on Sinai there had been hundreds of thousands of "second days." The perspective of the Bible for the six days of Genesis is from the only time in the history of time when there had not been a second day. And that is the first day. From the creation of the universe to the creation of the soul of Adam, the Torah views time from near the beginning looking forward. At the creation of Adam and Eve, the soul of humanity, the Bible perspective switches to earth based time. And therefore the biblical description of time changed.

 

 

[Neighbor]

Education Wiki

"Schroeder received his BSc in 1959, his MSc in 1961, and his PhD in nuclear physics and earth and planetary sciences in 1965, from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT).^[2] He worked five years on the staff of the MIT physics department. He was a member of the United States Atomic Energy Commission.^[3]"

[KiwiChristian]

10 hours ago, OneLight said:

The link in your OP is pointing to a PDF file you uploaded to this site, not to any external site.   People do not have access to any documents uploaded and I am not sure why.  It'd be better to link to the page itself, using the URL.

Ah, my apologies, i did not know that.

 

The link to the PDF is not working at the moment until the author repairs the site.

 

feel free to delete this thread

[KiwiChristian]

4 hours ago, Neighbor said:

One paragraph from the work of Gerald Schroeder link listed in the previous post by  Neighbor

The Creation of Time

Each day of creation is numbered. Yet Nahmanides points out that there is discontinuity in the way the days are numbered. The verse says: "There is evening and morning, Day One." But the second day doesn't say "evening and morning, Day Two." Rather, it says "evening and morning, a second day." And the Torah continues with this pattern: "Evening and morning, a third day... a fourth day... a fifth day... the sixth day." Only on the first day does the text use a different form: not "first day," but "Day One" ("Yom Echad"). Many English translations that make the mistake of writing "a first day." That's because editors want things to be nice and consistent. But they throw out the cosmic message in the text! That message, as Nahmanides points out, is that there is a qualitative difference between "one" and "first." One is absolute; first is comparative. The Torah could not write “a first day” on the first day because there had not yet been a second day relative to it. Had the perspective of the Bible for the first six days been from Sinai looking back, the Torah would have written a first day. By the time the Torah was given on Sinai there had been hundreds of thousands of "second days." The perspective of the Bible for the six days of Genesis is from the only time in the history of time when there had not been a second day. And that is the first day. From the creation of the universe to the creation of the soul of Adam, the Torah views time from near the beginning looking forward. At the creation of Adam and Eve, the soul of humanity, the Bible perspective switches to earth based time. And therefore the biblical description of time changed.

 

 

"The verse says: "There is evening and morning, Day One."

 

Yeah, thats why the modern perversions of the Bible are so DANGEROUS.

 

The verse ACTUALLY says "And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day." ( ’e·ḥāḏ. yō·wm  "THE FIRST" )

 

Did you READ the original post?

Edited June 30, 2017 by KiwiChristian

[OldCoot]

It isn't so much about how the days were numbered, as it is whose clock you are talking about.  Time is a relative property.  It varies by influence of mass, velocity, etc.  The national standard clock in Greenwich, England runs slightly faster than the one in Boulder, Colorado.  They are both correct, but the one in Boulder is a mile higher than the one in England.  Time is slower.  Not enough to adjust your daily schedule, but predictable and confirmed.

Gerald Schroeder, a Israeli physicist, took the mass of the universe, the distance from the earth to the perceived edge of the universe, and factored in the estimated time of the universe, and calculated that to equate to 7 days on the earth.  He outlines it in his book on the subject.  

I do hold to a 7000 year plan of God, that equates to the 7 days of creation.  Not something that should be taken as doctrinal truth, but a reasoned look.  There were 2000 years from the creation to Abraham.  There was 2000 years from Abraham to the Messiah.  There have been 2000 years, almost, from the Messiah till now.  And there will be a sabbath 1000 years of the reign of the Messiah on the earth.   I feel that 2 Peter 3:8 and Psalm 90:4 lend credence to that position.  And I am a stickler for the Mosaic Law principle that any issue be confirmed by the testimony of two witnesses... both OT and NT.

 

As a humorous side note.... there is one day in those 6 days of physical creation that God did not declare it was good.  The second day, or Monday.  We have the precedent set, by God himself, to complain about Mondays!   LOL

Edited July 2, 2017 by OldCoot