Hawaii just became the first US state to pass a bill supporting basic income

[LadyKay]

1 hour ago, simplejeff said:

The directive/ quote/ from the webpage reference the government wants the people to swallow: it is directly opposed to God's Word - another step in the building up of the system used by the beast/ one world government opposed to God and hating God's Way and oppressing God's people.

I have not read anywhere so far that no one is working.  Where do you get that giving people some help is against God's will? 

[LadyKay]

2 hours ago, shiloh357 said:

It is not asking too much for people to get off their lazy rear ends and go get a job and help shoulder the burden.  We have created a welfare class in our nation, a class of people who are really nothing but leeches and free loaders.

Well again that is all fine and well if there are jobs. Nice to pass judgment on a whole state of people you don't even know. Or know what the situation is. I hardly think that the whole state of Hawaii is laying around on the beach waiting for their hand out. 

[The_Patriot21]

2 hours ago, Running Gator said:

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thats questionable....and just because theyre somewhat successful now, doesnt mean they will in the future....take greece for example.

[Guest shiloh357]

6 hours ago, LadyKay said:

Well again that is all fine and well if there are jobs. Nice to pass judgment on a whole state of people you don't even know. Or know what the situation is. I hardly think that the whole state of Hawaii is laying around on the beach waiting for their hand out. 

Oh please, there is no shortage of jobs, not in Hawaii or anywhere else.   The problem is that we have had 8 years of a horrible president and incompetent, ignorant liberal leadership that created a dependence mentality in the US and now we have lazy good-for-nothings who want something for nothing and are more than willing to let someone else pay for them to sit around suck the lifeblood out of people actually get out and work.

[Guest shiloh357]

7 hours ago, Running Gator said:

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Yes, it works in nations with small populations.   It works in nations like Australia where the population is about the size of Florida.   Socialism isn't going to work in a nation of 350 million people.  

And I think it is interesting  that even countries where socialism "works,"  they still would rather be living in the US.

[Guest shiloh357]

6 hours ago, LadyKay said:

I have not read anywhere so far that no one is working.  Where do you get that giving people some help is against God's will? 

Helping people is one thing.  Paying them a living wage and not requiring them to work is another.

“You cannot legislate the poor into freedom by legislating the wealthy out of freedom. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is about the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.”
― Adrian Rogers

[LadyKay]

3 hours ago, shiloh357 said:

Helping people is one thing.  Paying them a living wage and not requiring them to work is another.

Well again I have not seen anything saying the people are not working or not going to be working.  I would like to look into this a bit more. I am always open to new ideals, even if they go against what has always been. 

[Guest shiloh357]

13 minutes ago, LadyKay said:

Well again I have not seen anything saying the people are not working or not going to be working.  I would like to look into this a bit more. I am always open to new ideals, even if they go against what has always been. 

New ideals?  This is socialism, which is not new and it is not based on helping people.    Are you willing to work 40-60 hours a week and pay higher taxes so other people can just sleep late, and do nothing all day on your dime?  Is that something you'd be interested in?

[FresnoJoe]

12 hours ago, Running Gator said:

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9 hours ago, The_Patriot2017 said:

that's questionable....and just because they're somewhat successful now, doesn't mean they will in the future....take Greece for example....

There is a generation, whose teeth are as swords, and their jaw teeth as knives, to devour the poor from off the earth, and the needy from among men. Proverbs 30:14

With all of the unrest, riots and murders in Venezuela these days, it’s easy to overlook one very basic question about the abysmal conditions its citizens are enduring. Venezuela has some of the richest farmland in the western hemisphere and was a net exporter of agricultural products until very recently. How can the people be starving? That’s the question being tackled at the Washington Post this week and the answer comes down to a single source: it’s the socialism, stupid. http://hotair.com/archives/2017/05/27/farmland-venezuelans-starving/

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