AmicusDei Posted September 3, 2017 Group: Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 17 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/16/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted September 3, 2017 (edited) So you are saying that God leaves the most important thing in the world to chance? I would have to give God more credit than that... Edited September 4, 2017 by AmicusDei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sower Posted September 5, 2017 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 14 Topic Count: 32 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 5,204 Content Per Day: 0.97 Reputation: 5,792 Days Won: 1 Joined: 07/09/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted September 5, 2017 On 9/3/2017 at 5:40 PM, AmicusDei said: So you are saying that God leaves the most important thing in the world to chance? I would have to give God more credit than that... Just as you would rather argue and debate someone, that is trying to impart to you what you need to know for eternal salvation, the salvation that is not universal. But is for whosoever, everybody that will accept His son. When the scriptures say salvation is a gift, what that means is it is a gift, free for the taking. Each person is responsible for their own decisions. If they decide to believe, that is their decision. If they decide not, or just are not interested, that is their decision. Why are you, personally, here now on this forum? Are you interested, sorta checking things out? Or just want to complain about your creator, the one who gave you life, and gave His own son to be shamed, crucified, and die. For you! Sorry He didn't consult with you about His plan for the human race, but I accept His ways, and believe in His sacrifice for me, and for whosoever will, for an eternity with God. It's your choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 On 9/2/2017 at 11:31 AM, AmicusDei said: God knew very well how man would choose. After all, he made man the way he is. So it is still God's responsibility. No, it is not God's responsibility. God gave man freedom to choose and man chose to rebel. That is not God's fault. Man bears full responsibility for his choices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmicusDei Posted September 6, 2017 Group: Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 17 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/16/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted September 6, 2017 I'm sorry, but God is ultimately responsible for everything. ...also we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to His purpose who works ALL THINGS after the counsel of His will. Ephesians 1:11 NASB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmicusDei Posted September 7, 2017 Group: Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 17 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/16/2016 Status: Offline Author Share Posted September 7, 2017 Ok. Fair enough. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiwiChristian Posted September 20, 2017 Group: Members * Followers: 8 Topic Count: 176 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 870 Content Per Day: 0.35 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/23/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/22/1968 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Of course not. The Bible is VERY clear. Plus, there would be no reason for there to be a hell and yet there IS one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 On 9/3/2017 at 5:40 PM, AmicusDei said: So you are saying that God leaves the most important thing in the world to chance? I would have to give God more credit than that... He doesn't leave it chance at all. Some simply refuse His offer of grace and salvation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 On 9/6/2017 at 6:16 PM, AmicusDei said: I'm sorry, but God is ultimately responsible for everything. ...also we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to His purpose who works ALL THINGS after the counsel of His will. Ephesians 1:11 NASB No, God is not responsible for everything and that verse does not claim that He is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMatrixHasU71 Posted September 21, 2017 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 21 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,573 Content Per Day: 0.52 Reputation: 723 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/10/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted September 21, 2017 On 9/1/2017 at 9:53 PM, AmicusDei said: Do you believe in Universal salvation? No. Only those who have repented of their sins and accepted Jesus Christ into their hearts as Lord and Saviour (without being corrupted by some "Christian" cult like the RCC or JWs or whatever) will be saved. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravindran Posted September 21, 2017 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 496 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 398 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/18/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted September 21, 2017 On 9/1/2017 at 8:53 PM, AmicusDei said: Do you believe in Universal salvation? No 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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