Are Jehovah and Allah the Same God?

[KiwiChristian]

Are Jehovah and Allah the Same God? NO

Question 1: What was Mohammad’s father’s name? (Abdullah)

Question 2: What does it mean? (slave of Allah)

Question 3: What was Mohammad’s grandfather’s name? (Abdul Mutaleb).

Question 4: Why did the grandfather name his son “Abdullah”? (After his favourite idol “Allah”.

Abdul Mutaleb (grandfather) was an idol worshipper
of 360 idols in the KABA in Mecca.
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Abdullah (father) means “slave of Allah”.
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Mohammad

Conclusion: The grandfather named his son “Abdullah”, meaning “slave of idol Allah”, after his favourite idol “Allah”.

This proves that Allah was an idol worshipped by the pre-Islamic Arabs.

Question 5: Why was Mohammad’s god named after a pagan idol in the Kaba?

Question 6: Is it right to borrow your god from pagans?

Question 7: What is on top of a Sunni mosque? (moon). Why? 
Because Allah was the moon god worshipped by pre-Islamic pagan Arabs as the greatest god in the Kaba.

Mohammad went one step further than pagan Arabs by teaching that Allah was the only god.

The true God of the Bible is “Jehovah”, whose name is mentioned 6844 times in the Bible. LORD = YHWH (Hebrew) = Yahweh, Jehovah, Yahova, Yahood

a) “I am the LORD thy God,.Thou shalt have no other gods before me.” Exodus 20:2,3

b) “That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth.” Psalms 83:18.

c) “All the gods of the nations are idols: but the LORD made the heavens.” Psalm 96:5

d) “Their sorrows shall be multiplied that hasten after another god:” Psalm 16:4

Allah is never mentioned in the Bible as God’s Name.

There is a word “Alah” in Hebrew (423), which means “curse” (“Nefrin” in Farsi, “lanat” in Arabic). “Therefore hath the curse (Alah) devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate: therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men left.” Isaiah 24:6. 

Every country that worships “Allah” is cursed, such as Afganistan, Somalia, Syria, Iraq, Iran, Libya, Egypt, Lebanon, Yemen, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Mali.

[just_abc]

On 19/10/2017 at 1:47 PM, KiwiChristian said:

 is never mentioned in the Bible as God’s Name.

The english word 'God' is also not His name but rather a term / title for Him.  

The arabic word for God (or a transliteration of it) is used by Christians in several different languages and in Bibles in different languages. 

For example  - When used in a Christian context by Christians in malaysian Borneo and Indonesia it is generally used similar to how english speaking Christians use the english term 'God'.... i.e as a  'title'  (or whatever the correct term is).. 

Thanks.

 

Edited October 21, 2017 by just_abc

[KiwiChristian]

18 hours ago, just_abc said:

The english word 'God' is also not His name but rather a term / title for Him.  

The arabic word for God (or a transliteration of it) is used by Christians in several different languages and in Bibles in different languages. 

For example  - When used in a Christian context by Christians in malaysian Borneo and Indonesia it is generally used similar to how english speaking Christians use the english term 'God'.... i.e as a  'title'  (or whatever the correct term is).. 

Thanks.

 

Of course.

But if you and i are talking about the oranges we are both holding, can we describe the orange to the other person and be referring to THEIR orange?

 

ie: the WORD "God" means nothing when talking about Him unless we are talking about the SAME entity.

the ENTITY behind the muslim word "allah" refers to the moon-god worshipped by the pagan arabs by praying toward Mecca several times a day; making a pilgrimage to Mecca; running around the temple of the Moon-god called the Kabah; kissing the black stone; killing an animal in sacrifice to the Moon-god; throwing stones at the devil; fasting for the month which begins and ends with the crescent moon; giving alms to the poor, etc., 

Edited October 21, 2017 by KiwiChristian

[sheya joie]

Keep in mind it is specified in the Quran that Allah has no son. That alone is enough to tell us that the god of Islam is not the same as the God of the Bible.

[missmuffet]

Yes, they are both God.

[missmuffet]

13 minutes ago, sheya joie said:

Keep in mind it is specified in the Quran that Allah has no son. That alone is enough to tell us that the god of Islam is not the same as the God of the Bible.

Of course we know that is wrong. God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. They are all God. One God three different persons.

[just_abc]

14 hours ago, KiwiChristian said:

ie: the WORD "God" means nothing when talking about Him unless we are talking about the SAME entity.

hi

The point I was trying to make is that Christians who use a certain word in a Christian context in some languages.. are refering to the same God of the Bible as Christians who speak english or other languages.

There is the non-Christian meaning of the word.. and there is the  Christian meaning of the word....

Similar in some ways perhaps to how even the english word 'God' is sometimes used by non-Christian religions such as Mormonism (a cult).. as well as by Christians.  That does not mean english speaking Christians are doing something wrong just because they are using the english language too.  And it does NOT mean that non-Christian religions are the same as Christianity.

Sorry just wanted to clarify.  Thanks. 

 

 *edited post to make meaning clearer -thanks*

 

Edited October 22, 2017 by just_abc

[KiwiChristian]

3 hours ago, just_abc said:

hi

The point I was trying to make is that Christians who use a certain word in a Christian context in some languages.. are refering to the same 'entity' as Christians who speak english or other languages.

There is the non-Christian meaning of the word.. and there is the  Christian meaning of the word....

Similar in some ways perhaps to how even the english word 'God' is sometimes used by non-Christian religions such as Mormonism (a cult).. as well as by Christians.  That does not mean english speaking Christians are doing something wrong just because they are using the english language too.  And it does NOT mean that non-Christian religions are the same as Christianity.

Sorry just wanted to clarify.  Thanks. 

 

 

Sorry if i got the wrong end of the stick, so to speak.

 

I agree.

 

We can then discuss what can be classed as "Christian", but thats a while different matter for another thread.

 

God blss.

[JohnD]

On 10/21/2017 at 8:38 PM, missmuffet said:

Yes, they are both God.

I presume this is taken out of context. It is unspecified who "they" you refer to are.

And in a thread that asks of Jehovah and Allah are the same God... you see my concern.

Could you clarify / edit the post please????

[JohnD]

Dr. Chuck Missler and Dr. Bob Morey warned for years Islam is not a religion of peace in any sense or any faction. 

They all come from the Kaaba (360 gods and temples and families of priests). Muhammad wanted to establish a monotheistic religion (like Christianity and Judaism) in his own region but was shunned by both (who he applied to for help). Instead he destroyed all the temples and gods but his own the moon god al ylah, murdered the priests and their families, and rained terror on all who did not bow to the god of Islam. That terror lived on long after his death. The crusades that Christians (Catholics in particular) are always being bashed for were to push back the Islamic invasions that went as far as Gibraltar.

Islam has been around long enough for tradition and family to condemn future generations to that religion, but make no mistake, Islam is still conversion by the sword. And if (or when) it secures global dominance, they will turn on themselves (beginning with the factions like Shia and Sunni and as we saw last weekend in the Egyptian Mosque the Sufis). I was in Bahrain @ 1980 and the Shia were on the warpath and the Sunis were the friendlies. I am sure that flip flipped many times since.

Just remember to be careful. Cautious. The most friendly peace loving Muslim is religiously bound to do what they believe their god tells them to do (once they are convinced).  

Missler used to quip that if you kill enough of your own people, you too could get a Nobel Peace Prize as Yasser Arafat did (who killed more of his own people for complacency than he killed any one else). We live in far more dangerous times than most realize or will do anything about.