I Thes 5:22

[frienduff thaylorde]

HERE is a real good example from the TRUE HOLY SCRIPS.

The desciples said to HIM..............LORD , LORD did you not KNOW that this saying OFFENDED THEM.     LET THEM BE , they the blind leading the blind

every plant which my FATHER has not planted shall be rooted up.    JESUS SPOKE , HE SIMPLY SPOKE TRUTH.

Lord , by saying this YOU ARE REPROCAHING US TOO ,    WOE UNTO YOU , said JESUS.    JESUS did not approach with the mindset of changing his speech to suit the hearer.

HE SIMPLY SPOKE TRUTH and he who received received and he who rejected was rejected.    NOT the image most KNOW TODAY EHH.

YE adutlerers and adulteresses...............don't ye know that friendship of the world IS enmity with GOD.   apparently JAMES too just wrote and spoke as he was led.

WHILE we do not make it a POINT to go and offend.  WE also don't make it a point to change the message in any way as to NOT OFFEND EITHER.

JUST SPEAK the truth as the SPIRIT gives thee unction,   he who hears amen, and he who rejectes will be rejected .

THEY shook the dust off their feet After leaving placings who had rejected Christ.  WHY...............cause JESUS had said to do so.

THE real men of GOD.............simply DID as JESUS had said to do.  THEY Did not worry about what to speak or say...........FOR JESUS had said MY FATHER will give you a mouth.

THEY FOLLOWED THE SPIRIT , not man.  THE SPIRIT .  amen.

[frienduff thaylorde]

3 hours ago, OldSchool2 said:

Even some JWs have finally ditched their NWT for the NIV.

"Fidelity to Scripture is the first priority of the New International Version (NIV). The NIV translators bring a wealth of experience in the original Greek, Hebrew, and Aramaic languages of the Bible. The result? An accurate, reliable translation of God’s Word you can read and understand...."

https://www.biblica.com/niv-bible/niv-bible-translation-accuracy/

at best and at most this verison is mans interpretation of what the scrips should say .  THEY leaned on their own understanding of learned doctrines of men

and went about creating NEW versoins, which many claimed was just new English, NO, they changed the meaning of some things.    Had they put it into new English alone

that would be great.  its not what they did.   Specially in the MESSAGE.    Good night that one is butched heavy with mans carnal intellect,

as are others too.    Some may not be as bad as others.   But if ya want the pure , return to the kjb.  

[frienduff thaylorde]

3 hours ago, OldSchool2 said:

Then how exactly do you eat His body and drink His blood as per John 6:53?

"Then Jesus said unto them, 'Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you....'" (KJV).

MY WORDS are SPIRIT and they are LIFE.   might want to add that last part in.

They were not to eat of HIS PHYSICAL FLESH , nor drink HIS PHYSICAL BLOOD.   his words were SPIRIT .    we just do the communion in REMEMBRANCE of what HE DID.

no adding to it with mans carnal understanding .   ROME has failed the people and so have many other churches .   NOW she leads the charge

in the greatest abomination THAT will cause DESOLATOIN.  the interfaith all roads lead LIE for world peace. SHE Will be burned for her lies and fornication .

I ONLY Pray many come out of her and many other false churches FORE ITS TOO late .

[frienduff thaylorde]

3 hours ago, Butero said:

The NIV is one of the worst translations.  Not only did they have a lesbian among their translators, but they intentionally made a gender neutral Bible, even though that was not faithful to the original manuscripts.  Even people like James Dobson, who is generally fairly liberal when it comes to Bible translations, came against the way they took such liberties with the text.  You say that Jehovah's Witnesses have left the New World Translation for the NIV, and that is supposed to show it is accurate?  They are a cult.  If they like the NIV, that should sound a warning to everyone.  

ITs bad, real bad. but the absolute worst one I have seen IS THE MESSAGE which so many JUST LOVE and adore.  THAT IS SO SCARY FOR THEM.   so fearful for them.

[OldSchool2]

3 hours ago, Butero said:

No you don't.  Catholics can claim that the bread and wine literally become flesh and blood, but that is completely false.  The bread and wine are symbolic for Jesus' broken body and his blood.  It is not literally his flesh and blood.

Tell that to Martin Luther, Augustinian monk and father of Protestantism.

"Who, but the devil, has granted such license of wresting the words of the holy Scripture? Who ever read in the Scriptures, that my body  is the same as the sign of my body? or, that is is the same as it signifies? What language in the world ever spoke so? It is only then the devil, that imposes upon us by these fanatical men. Not one of the Fathers of the Church, though so numerous, ever spoke as the Sacramentarians: not one of them ever said, It is only bread and wine; or, the body and blood of Christ is not there present...."

https://bfhu.wordpress.com/2011/05/13/martin-luther-on-the-real-presence/

"Take, eat; this is my body...." 

[frienduff thaylorde]

Just now, OldSchool2 said:

Tell that to Martin Luther, Augustinian monk and father of Protestantism.

"Who, but the devil, has granted such license of wresting the words of the holy Scripture? Who ever read in the Scriptures, that my body  is the same as the sign of my body? or, that is is the same as it signifies? What language in the world ever spoke so? It is only then the devil, that imposes upon us by these fanatical men. Not one of the Fathers of the Church, though so numerous, ever spoke as the Sacramentarians: not one of them ever said, It is only bread and wine; or, the body and blood of Christ is not there present...."

https://bfhu.wordpress.com/2011/05/13/martin-luther-on-the-real-presence/

"Take, eat; this is my body...." 

Don't follow them either.     Its got real bad as of late.   if I were to leave a list of all the false ones and churches.   It could be put in BOOKS.

ITS BAD oldschool REAL BAD.   HAVE NOTHING to do with all inclusive interfaith , with this unifying of faiths and different religions too.

ITS a sham, its of satan and all powers of darkness. SO anyone trumpting this.............ARE FALSE .  

[OldSchool2]

3 hours ago, Davida said:

If changing "he" for Jesus was all they did that would be different , but that is not.  But to dismiss others concern about it as conspiracy is not reasonable.

So show us what exactly is the translation issue, otherwise don't expect me to look up dozens of chapters and verses.

[OldSchool2]

3 hours ago, Butero said:

The NIV is one of the worst translations....

According to what biblical scholar?

[frienduff thaylorde]

Brace yourselves cause I am about to SHOW some good examples of what I meant by evil .

What JESUS said to do we do and what he said not to or called evil WE DONT.

EXAMINATOIN TIME to see who is truly abstaining from evil and who is not .

REMARRIAGE .   

Taking one to court .

Swearing

defending oneself

Many more HE has said to do , by omitting or going around any of HIS sayings,     WE LIE and do NOT the WILL OF THE FATHER

Let it soak in a bit.  cause I know SOME here have done and JUSTIFIED why they have done what JESUS has either called evil and not to do.

To go around HIS SAYINGS        IS TO WORK inquity.  and heres a HUGE sayings of HIS TOO.

I AM THE WAY , NO MAN comes to the FATHER but by me.     REPENT POPE REPENT NOW .  flee this man and flee the all inclusive lie from hell now , one and all FLEE IT>

[OldSchool2]

2 hours ago, Heleadethme said:

Understanding that the Lord gave to me is that it is by proxy.....just as legally binding as the spirit of adoption makes it "just as if" we are His real sons and daughters and inherit the kingdom.  We eat the sacrifice of His body and blood by proxy, through bread and wine.  God accepts is "just as if" it was His actual body and blood.  Eating His body and drinking His blood also means to partake of His life (psuche/soul - life is in the blood) ie, receive and drink of His Spirit, and eat His words because they are bread to us.  Christ IN us the hope of glory.....His Spirit IN us, His word IN us when it finds entrance, the word of His gospel.....which causes us to be washed clean and born again.

And all of the above are done by faith.