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[frienduff thaylorde]

21 hours ago, OldSchool2 said:

Then you should have no trouble finding those posts and using the quote feature to reproduce them all in context.

I'll wait.

And now a WORD FROM JESUS .

I am the way the truth and the Life , NO MAN comes to the Father BUT by ME.

Any other way in is thieves and robbers.  GET OUT OF IT ROBERT< FLEE THIS MAN he is of upmost darkness.  IT lies , it lies

this interfaith is from satan himself.  You wanted a contradiction , YOU GOT THE WORST ONE RIGHT HERE.     De POPE is lying .  GET OUT of this system NOW Robert .

FLEE it while you still have time.

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[Guest shiloh357]

16 minutes ago, OldSchool2 said:

"And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed it, and brake it, and gave it to the disciples, and said, Take, eat; this is my body. And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it...:"

"Is not the cup of blessing that we bless a participation in the blood of Christ? And is not the bread that we break a participation in the body of Christ?" (1 Cor. 16:10). Yes, or no?

Let me quote the Bible and what it really says in context:

"The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not the communion of the blood of Christ? The bread which we break, is it not the communion of the body of Christ? For we being many are one bread, and one body: for we are all partakers of that one bread. Behold Israel after the flesh: are not they which eat of the sacrifices partakers of the altar? What say I then? that the idol is any thing, or that which is offered in sacrifice to idols is any thing?"  (1Co 10:16-19)

I Corinthians 10:16 appears in the context of a discussion about eating food sacrificed to idols.  The communion cup which we bless has to do with our devotion to God and not to idols. When Christians participate in Communion (not the Eucharist; it is not Communion), we are also acknowledging the fact that we are set part to the Lord and to His service exclusively. 

The communion of the blood and the bread in communion speaks to our unity with Christ and others and our fellowship in the benefits of the death of Jesus on the cross.    The wine and the unleavened matzah  speak to the two-fold work of the cross, namely forgiveness of sins and deliverance from the power or dominion of sin.

The clear implication given by Paul is that knowingly participating with idolaters festivals meant to honor their false gods would indicate a communion with the idolaters in service to their gods.

This has NOTHING to do with the pagan myth of transubstantiation.   In fact, it would be something rejected by Paul based upon the above text.  Transubstantiation is the kind of idolatry that we are instructed to flee from.

 

 

[simplejeff]

Aw .... guys...... he said he would wait......  now he's likely to speak up again ........ sigh......

Oh well,  let's see if maybe he waits......

[Guest Butero]

1 hour ago, OldSchool2 said:

How "Catholic" is Foxe's Book of Martyrs, a work of Protestant history and martyrology by John Foxe that was first published in 1563?

He doesn't make the decision to grant the title of saint to anyone like the Catholic Church does.  

[Guest Butero]

1 hour ago, OldSchool2 said:

Did the authors of two KJV revisions "attack" its reliability, or try to correct it?

And I wonder how many self-appointed true followers God has on Worthy?

First of all, the only true revisions were with spelling.  They went from old English spelling to modern English spelling.  There was the edition where the Apocrypha was removed from the center, but the Apocrypha was never part of the canon.  Personally, I like having the Apocrypha for a reference, and I do have it in my 1611 King James Bible, but as far as actual revisions to the text, none of them make any real changes.  If you need me to, I carry a 1611 King James Bible and an Authorized King James Bible with me all the time, so if you don't understand what kind of so called revisions took place, I can give you examples.  As I stated earlier, I have read both the 1611 Edition and the Authorized Edition cover to cover many times over.  

As for the judgment day, there are many things the Lord could point out when it comes to my personal short comings, but I feel confident that one thing he will not do is defend the Catholic Church and get on to me for being a Catholic bigot.  I have no fear of that whatsoever.  

By the way, speaking of translations, how come you are satisfied with using a Bible the Catholic Church would consider incomplete.  Catholics have 73 books instead of 66 like protestants do, that they consider canon.  The NIV doesn't have all 73.  It would seem to me a good Catholic would be bothered by that and would want a complete Bible.  My 1611 KJV Bible does contain all 73 books the Catholics consider canon, plus 7 additional books called Apocrypha.  Doesn't that matter to you?  

[Guest Butero]

1 hour ago, OldSchool2 said:

Quote the post where I said that, or be known as the slanderous liar you are.

I am happy to do so, just like I did the other time you accused me of lying and I put you to an open shame.  If that is what you want, so be it.  

[Guest Butero]

On ‎11‎/‎8‎/‎2017 at 2:22 PM, OldSchool2 said:

... because of Moses, but we are longer under law, but grace.

Or at least I am.

In this post, you were explaining why that even though the Holy Spirit and the Apostles told us that it was necessary we abstain from fornication, things strangled, and eating blood, you don't have to do it because "we are no longer under law, but grace," or at least you claim that you are.  You are clearly stating you are free from obeying something taught in New Testament scripture, but at the same time, you have yet to openly state you are free to violate the seven deadly sins recognized by the Catholic Church and be alright.  

If that is not proof enough, I can add more of that conversation to prove I am not a slanderous liar.  

[Guest Butero]

On ‎11‎/‎8‎/‎2017 at 2:02 PM, Butero said:

I don't want you to be confused Old School, so here is the actual passage that proves you are taking this out of context.

"For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden THAN THESE NECESSARY THINGS;  That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, AND FROM BLOOD, and from things strangled, and from fornication:  from which IF YE KEEP YOURSELVES, YE SHALL DO WELL."  Acts 15:28,29 OF THE NEW TESTAMENT.  

The Holy Ghost and the Apostles laid this on the Christians.  

This was what led to Old School saying he was free from having to obey this New Testament scripture because he was under grace.  I am sorry I have to be repetitive by re-posting this again, but I must show everyone that I spoke the truth and am not a slanderous liar.  Heaven forbid anyone think that!  On the other hand, I think it is good to show this passage of scripture again for those who may have missed it.  We are clearly told that Christians are not to eat blood, and it was the Holy Ghost and the Apostles that said this was necessary.  For some reason, Old School disagrees with the Holy Spirit and the Apostles.  Yes Old School.  I did say that about you, and have submitted proof that what I said was true.  Show how I am a slanderous liar.  

By the way Old School 2,  I am now charging you openly with slander.  You said, "Quote the post where I said that, or be known as the slanderous liar you are."  

You openly called me a slanderous liar, and I just proved that I was speaking the truth.  I ought to report you for a clear violation of the TOS like you did Simple Jeff, but a simple apology will do.  

[Guest Butero]

1 hour ago, OldSchool2 said:

Why can't you answer a simple question, simplejeff? Is Jesus Jewish, or isn't he? 

Again, the pot is calling the kettle black.  You have yet to answer many of my questions.  What are the 300 words that no longer have the same meaning in the KJV Bible?  I have been anxiously waiting on you to post them.  I have also been waiting on you to say if you can violate the seven deadly sins recognized by the Catholic Church and remain saved since you are under grace.  If you are going to cross-examine others and demand answers from them, how about you answer questions put to you?  

[simplejeff]

1 minute ago, Butero said:

Again, the pot is calling the kettle black.  You have yet to answer many of my questions.  What are the 300 words that no longer have the same meaning in the KJV Bible?  I have been anxiously waiting on you to post them.  I have also been waiting on you to say if you can violate the seven deadly sins recognized by the Catholic Church and remain saved since you are under grace.  If you are going to cross-examine others and demand answers from them, how about you answer questions put to you?  

Does it matter how old a person is,  how long they have been deceived,  and if they are taking mind changing medications or other drugs ?   There's no clear way to clarify this online, is there ?