Why so much Hate between the Churches/Religions that follow Christ?

[Guest shiloh357]

6 minutes ago, inchrist said:

Several? Hardly alot is it? 

I have been here for 13 years.   I have seen a lot over that time.  And there are several here. They are tares sown amongst the wheat.  

[Guest shiloh357]

6 minutes ago, inchrist said:

So you say, however judging by the comment all ive seen whoever disagrees with you is a false teacher, hardly several....ive lost count actually.....

No, a false teacher is someone who rejects the teachings of the Bible and the doctrines it contains, and who twists and mangles Scripture  in an attempt to mold it around the teaching they are trying to foist on the true Body of Christ. 

A good example is the idol worshiper and heretic who rejects the deity of Jesus and calls God a liar.

[Justin Adams]

3 hours ago, shiloh357 said:

No, there have been several.   For starters, there are those who deny the deity of Jesus who masquerade as Christians.

This is not what you said to me. You just decided to be contrary. I do not think that is very loving.

You pretend to be a defender of the faith, but you cause strife and off topic ventures. Sadly you do mostly what you accuse others of doing. 

You call those 'purveyors of untruth', 'heretic' and a whole lot more just because they seem to you to be undermining your belief system. You pretend to be concerned for the unbeliever and the weak in faith. You seem to want to be the HOLY SPIRIT. He is the ONE that leads in all truth - NOT YOU.

It seems that your beliefs are so fragile that they need you to protect them. You quote ultimate Authority of YOUR scripture, yet Saul said; 'all scripture was of benefit etc...'

This was stated BEFORE your RCC canon was even half way complete.

Those of us that believe in the 66 books and even dare to read more you call 'raca'.
You sometimes say brash things like 'you have no knowledge', 'you do not understand' and all kinds of derogatory put downs.
You are defending nothing except your own brand and you are so easily threatened that you feel you must hurl insults and threats to 'block people like you'.

My belief is in THE WORD, THE ONE, THE LIGHT OF MEN, YESHUA, THE ONE TRUE GOD.
The ONE TRUE GOD has given us His WORD and His words, fitly and rightly applied by the HOLY SPIRIT that indwells the believer. 
These 'words' and instructions are for our benefit. These words are NOT to be worshiped and held more dear than the life of ANY of the Lord's Flock. Else if you sacrifice a life for one word of the scripture you are just like the rest of the inquisitors that killed for words thinking they did God a favor.

Edited November 10, 2017 by Justin Adams

[Guest shiloh357]

2 minutes ago, Justin Adams said:

This is not what you said to me. You just decided to be contrary. I do not think that is very loving.

That's always how false teachers try to deflect when their views are challenged; that those who reject and condemn their teachings are "unloving."   Common cultic emotional manipulation tactic.

You pretend to be a defender of the faith, but you cause strife and off topic ventures. Sadly you do mostly what you accuse others of doing. 

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You call those 'purveyors of untruth', 'heretic' and a whole lot more just because they seem to you to be undermining your belief system.

No, I call them a heretic because they reject the doctrines of Scripture and try to mold the Bible around their unbiblical teachings. 

 

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You pretend to be concerned for the unbeliever and the weak in faith. You seem to want to be the HOLY SPIRIT. He is the ONE that leads in all truth - NO YOU.

I am concerned for those weak in the faith, which is why I defend them against false teaching.  I am not trying to be the Holy Spirit.  I am contending for the faith against those who seek to undermine it.

 

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It seems that your beliefs are so fragile that they need you to protect them. You quote ultimate Authority of YOUR scripture, yet Saul said; 'all scripture was of benefit etc...'

No, I defend the claims of Scripture, not my beliefs.   My beliefs are not fragile at all, which is why I don't bend the garbage that you post on here.  Those who are fragile in their beliefs are those who can be swayed and led around with hook in their nose.

 

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This was stated BEFORE your RCC canon was even half way complete.

I don't possess an RCC canon.

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Those of us that believe in the 66 books and even dare to read more you call 'raca'.

Not because they read more, than the 66 but because they seek to add to the Word of God.  And yes, such a person is more than raca; they are anathema.

 

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You sometimes say brash things like 'you have no knowledge', 'you do not understand' and all kinds of derogatory put downs.
You are defending nothing except your own brand and you are so easily threatened that you feel you must hurl insults and threats to 'block people like you'.

I have not threatened to block anyone and neither am I threatened by one, least of all, you.

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My belief is in THE WORD, THE ONE, THE LIGHT OF MEN, YESHUA, THE ONE TRUE GOD.
The ONE TRUE GOD has given us His WORD and His words, fitly and rightly applied by the HOLY SPIRIT that indwells the believer. 
These 'words' and instructions are for our benefit. These words are NOT to be worshiped and held more dear than the life of ANY of the Lord's Flock. Else if you sacrifice a life for one word of the scripture you are just like the rest of the inquisitors that killed for words thinking they did God a favor.

I don't worship anyone but the triune God of Scripture, Father, Son and Holy Spirit.   He alone is the object of my worship.

You can stop with manipulation game of pretending you are being persecuted.  It just looks silly.   Its' what cultists do when they run out of intelligent things to say.

[Guest shiloh357]

16 minutes ago, inchrist said:

A false teacher is one who is looking to cause deceit purposefully.

 

Doesn't matter if it purposeful or not.   They are false teachers. And the result is the same.

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The problem is you automatically think bad of everyone who disagrees with you thinking they tring to deceive you purposefully.

No that is not the problem.  The problem is that many in the Church are not discerning enough to kick out the false teachers, render them ineffective.

 

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And you not alone, its the current state of the church.

I wish the current state of the Church was one where false teachers found the environment to be toxic and find themselves unwelcome and out on the street.

 

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Everyone does not have it all figured out, everyone is working out their own salvation and walk with God with their understanding of truth, just because their own understanding of truth does not comply with your understanding of truth does not mean they  are deliberately tring to be deceitful

No one has it all figured out, but we can spot false teachers and we can spot those tares sown amongst us and we can call false teaching what it is in hopes of blunting their influence and keeping others from listening to them.

[Guest shiloh357]

1 minute ago, inchrist said:

Thats where you are sadly wrong....there are those who are simply mistaken.

Big difference between a false teacher versus a mistaken teacher.

No, that is an artificial distinction that you make. 

 

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Problem is you cant, and this where the church is failing at.

I certainly can.  For instance, those who teach that Jesus is not God are prime examples of the tares that Satan has sown in our midst.

[Justin Adams]

8 minutes ago, shiloh357 said:

I don't worship anyone but the triune God of Scripture, Father, Son and Holy Spirit.   He alone is the object of my worship.

Me too. A Trinitarian. FATHER, SON and HOLY SPIRIT. Yahweh, Yeshua, Ha Ruach Ha Kodesh.

....He is worshiped and glorified and of His kingdom there is NO END.

[Guest shiloh357]

34 minutes ago, inchrist said:

Wrong

Apollos was  “competent in the Scriptures” (Acts 18:24). It is even said that he taught “accurately the things concerning Jesus” (18:25). He wasn’t evil. He wasn’t trying to mislead, deceive, or exploit anyone. He was, however, mistaken about one important thing; he wasn’t preaching the right baptism. So a Christian couple, “took him aside and explained to him the way of God more accurately

Scripture makes that distinction.

I hope the OP can see why there is hatred amongst the churches......

It is one thing to be mistaken about secondary issues and not to have a complete understanding of a particular doctrine. 

But, I am talking about heretical notions like denying Jesus 'deity, denying the person-hood of the Holy Spirit, adding works to salvation, the heresies of the RCC and so on.  Those are not mistakes;  those are heresies that true Christians must contend against.   We must protect the body of Christ from ones Satan has placed in our midst to lead people away from the truth of Scripture.

There is hatred of the churches who teach falsely against those churches that stand for sound doctrine and have the courage to challenge false churches and cults. 

[Justin Adams]

12 minutes ago, shiloh357 said:

We must protect the body of Christ from ones Satan has placed in our midst to lead people away from the truth of Scripture.

You just shot yourself in the foot again. The body of Christ does not NEED you in that capacity. You obviously do not have the gift of discernment. So few on here that you brow-beat have the courage to face up to your machinations. Just Stop It Please.

Zechariah 8:17

“And let none of you imagine evil in your hearts against his neighbour; and love no false oath: for all these are things that I hate, saith the LORD.” 

Edited November 10, 2017 by Justin Adams

[Guest shiloh357]

10 minutes ago, Justin Adams said:

You just shot yourself in the foot again. The body of Christ does not NEED you in that capacity.

Yes it does.  We are to earnestly contend for the faith.   The Body of Christ is in desperate need of those who know the truth to counter false teaching, and that is more true today than at any other time.
 

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You obviously do not have the gift of discernment.

There is no such thing as "gift" of discernment.   Discernment is simply the ability spot false teaching and call it out.
 

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So few on here that you brow-beat have the courage to face up to your machinations. Just Stop It Please.

Zechariah 8:17

“And let none of you imagine evil in your hearts against his neighbour; and love no false oath: for all these are things that I hate, saith the LORD.” 

 

I am not brow beating anyone.   I am simply countering false teachers, cultists who don't want to be questioned or challenged or have their false teachings called out.   And I will stop.