The Sabbath is not on Saturday or Sunday

[HarvestLabourer]

Thank you, SisterActs. I appreciate that. Didn't want you to feel bad for thinking one was pushing their point though. I hope I don't come across as being rude. I try not to be, but sometimes I get incensed too. Forgive me if I have been rude. Bless Jesus. Best wishes, Paul 

[When Is Jesus Coming?]

On 05/12/2017 at 11:49 PM, SisterActs2 said:

Hello When Is Jesus Coming?

I need to apologise to you.  Upon re-reading my response to your OP I realise I have been abrupt and rude.  Please forgive me.  This is not normally my character.... I also thought you were another SDA sister or brother trying to push your point, and some of us don't want to go there any more.  Instead of posting my comment, I should have simply refrained from saying anything at all.  God bless you.

Hello SisterActs2

No I didn't think you were rude just ignorant :

ignorant

adjective

1. lacking knowledge or awareness in general; uneducated or unsophisticated.

    

   Instead of ignoring the information I presented you with, you could have just read it and realised the Sabbath is not on Saturday or Sunday but instead you are still ignorant of this. God bless you too and sorry if I seem rude. 

 

[When Is Jesus Coming?]

On 05/12/2017 at 11:11 AM, HarvestLabourer said:

For me it is more reasonable to assume that Jesus did not observe times.
They say He kept the law.

Ye shall not eat any thing with the blood: neither shall ye use enchantment, nor observe times.
Leviticus 19:26

Posting your post three times is chanting it.

Bless Jesus 
Paul

Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years.
Galatians 4:10

You assume too much, Jesus kept the Passover all his life.

Luke 2:42

When he was twelve years old, they went up to the festival, according to the custom.

And that other feasts:

John 2:13
When it was almost time for the Jewish Passover, Jesus went up to Jerusalem.

John 5:1
After these things there was a feast of the Jews, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem.

John 6:4
Now the Passover, the feast of the Jews, was near.

John 7:2 + 10
2 But when the Jewish Festival of Tabernacles was near, 10 he also went, not publicly, but in secret.
John 10:22
Then came the Festival of Dedication (Hanukkah) at Jerusalem. It was winter,

John 12:12-13
12 The next day the great crowd that had come for the festival (Passover) heard that Jesus was on his way to Jerusalem.

And the Sabbaths:

Luke 4:16

He went to Nazareth, where he had been brought up, and on the Sabbath day he went into the synagogue, as was his custom. He stood up to read

You know nothing about God's Calendar and its importance. Jesus died on the Passover. He sent the Holy Spirit at Pentecost which is the Jewish feast of week. 

 

 

[HarvestLabourer]

On 12/8/2017 at 3:05 AM, When Is Jesus Coming? said:

You assume too much, Jesus kept the Passover all his life

Thank you. I believe He did.
I have only been keeping Passover, and Jesus has been coming, for 13 years.
 

On 12/8/2017 at 3:05 AM, When Is Jesus Coming? said:

You know nothing about God's Calendar and its importance. Jesus died on the Passover. He sent the Holy Spirit at Pentecost which is the Jewish feast of week. 

I am yet to find this commandment:
Thou shalt keep My Calendar, and diligently observe My times;
and thou shall chant all the times, until the all people observe them.

Sometimes, when I go to make the Passover, the Lord says to me, not at this time.
And there have been a couple of times He has said to me, Come on, time for a Passover.

But it is excellent to see that you desire to make the sabbaths as commanded.
Jesus comes quickly 
Paul

And when He had sent the multitudes away, He went up into a mountain apart to pray:
and when the evening was come, He was there alone.
Matthew 14:23

And when He had sent them away, He departed into a mountain to pray.
Mark 6:46

And it came to pass in those days, that He went out into a mountain to pray,
and continued all night in prayer to God.
Luke 6:12
 

[When Is Jesus Coming?]

13 hours ago, HarvestLabourer said:

Thank you. I believe He did.
I have only been keeping Passover, and Jesus has been coming, for 13 years.
 

I am yet to find this commandment:
Thou shalt keep My Calendar, and diligently observe My times;
and thou shall chant all the times, until the all people observe them.

Sometimes, when I go to make the Passover, the Lord says to me, not at this time.
And there have been a couple of times He has said to me, Come on, time for a Passover.

But it is excellent to see that you desire to make the sabbaths as commanded.
Jesus comes quickly 
Paul

And when He had sent the multitudes away, He went up into a mountain apart to pray:
and when the evening was come, He was there alone.
Matthew 14:23

And when He had sent them away, He departed into a mountain to pray.
Mark 6:46

And it came to pass in those days, that He went out into a mountain to pray,
and continued all night in prayer to God.
Luke 6:12
 

Putting words into the mouth of those who you are debating with and then engage in your own made up debate shows your inability to debate the subject matter presented. This may be a fear of yours to understand new things. You can re-educate yourself to over come this disability and further your knowledge. 

Believing you hear God's voice is more often than not a sign of self delusion or in rare cases madness, sometimes a bit of both. I would be wary of this phenomenon of yours. 

We don't need to keep  the Passover, that was merely one of the ritualistic Feasts and Holy Days the Jews had to keep in order for them to recognise the coming Messiah who would fulfil them. Jesus fulfilled 10 of the 12 Feasts and Holy Days. He will fulfil the 2 that are left, Atonement and Tabernacles, when He returns. 

[other one]

http://www.equip.org/article/should-we-keep-the-sabbath/

Should We Keep the Sabbath?
Article ID: DS420 | By: James A. Borland

This article first appeared in the Christian Research Journal, volume 26, number 2 (2003). For further information or to subscribe to the Christian Research Journal go to: http://www.equip.org

 

 

IS SABBATH KEEPING A UNIVERSAL MORAL OBLIGATION?
Sabbatarians argue that because the Sabbath was instituted at Creation, keeping it is a universal moral obligation. In the initial account of God’s creation of the Sabbath, however, “not only is there no explicit command and no use of the term ‘Sabbath,’ there is also no mention of humanity. The depiction of the seventh day in the schema is solely in terms of God.”12 The text of Genesis 1–2 unfolds God’s creative work and its completion in six days, followed by God’s rest. The movement climaxes with God’s resting. It may be a fitting pattern for humanity to follow, but the text contains no suggestion of some universal moral obligation for humanity to keep the Sabbath.
In the same passage, God married the first pair and commanded them to reproduce and multiply; yet even that injunction is not a moral law, universally binding on all humans. Jesus Himself did not marry, and He endorsed celibacy in some cases (Matt. 19:12). Paul, furthermore, advocated the unmarried state as a wise and wholesome choice for some Christians (1 Cor. 7:7, 26–27, 39–40).
God’s initial Sabbath did not originate from His divine essence and nature, and consequently it should not be seen as a moral law binding on all people. Jesus, in response to the Pharisees’ question about what activities were lawful on the Sabbath, said, “The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath” (Mark 2:27). God made us. He knows our frame, our constitution, and our needs. God’s pattern of work and rest is instructive for us. Following that pattern, we can learn and benefit; but are we to see a binding moral obligation of Sabbath keeping in the Creation account? The answer is no. It simply is not there. Some read an obligation back into the Genesis record from the fourth commandment’s wording, which mentions the Creation (Exod. 20:11), but it is not in Genesis 2:1–3.
IS SABBATH KEEPING A PERPETUAL OBLIGATION?
If Sabbath keeping is not a universal moral law, is it true that it is a perpetual obligation enjoined on all humankind? Sabbatarians argue that perpetual observation is evidence of a perpetual obligation. Darwin Maxson, a Seventh-day Baptist educator, argues that from the institution of the Sabbath “there has been an unbroken line of God-loving men who have kept the seventh day of the week as a Sabbath.”13
There is no question that the Bible teaches that God made the seventh day, blessed it, and sanctified it. All this can be learned from Genesis 2:1–3; however, there is no further mention of the Sabbath in Genesis, or in Exodus, during all the thousands of years that passed by until the Israelites, freed from Egyptian bondage, were on their wilderness trek. Not one verse of Scripture shows Adam, Enoch, Methuselah, or Noah keeping the Sabbath and passing it down to others. We never read that Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, or the patriarchs ever kept the Sabbath for even one day. They came out of heathen darkness and into marvelous faith in God, but there is no hint that they practiced Sabbath keeping. This is, of course, an argument from silence; however, neither can Sabbatarians prove from silence that there has been an unbroken line of seventh-day Sabbath worship.
The Scriptures note times when what God prescribed was not followed. In Nehemiah 8:17 we read that the Feast of Tabernacles with its sitting under booths (Deut. 16:16) had not been observed for nearly 1,000 years, from Joshua down to Ezra. Second Chronicles 36:21 similarly seems to indicate that the 70-year-long Babylonian captivity was partly to reclaim the Sabbatic years that were largely neglected from the times of the judges through the kingdom period.14 There is no such indication, however, about a similar lapse that would explain the lack of any reference to Sabbath observance in Genesis.
SDA writings also endeavor to prove that an unbroken line of Sabbath observance continued during the New Testament era by arguing that Jesus, and His disciples and followers, kept the Sabbath prior to His crucifixion. All acknowledge this, but it does not prove the perpetuity of Sabbath observation after the Resurrection. Several references to the Sabbath in the book of Acts are asserted to show that the disciples knew no change from keeping the Sabbath (Acts 13:14, 27, 42; 16:13; 18:4).15 Each mention of the Sabbath in Acts, however, merely confirms that the Jews still observed that day. Not once is it reported in Acts that Christian believers assembled on the Sabbath. The only reference to the Sabbath in the New Testament after Acts is Colossians 2:16, where Paul told believers they are not under bondage to Jewish dietary restrictions or the Sabbath.
Sabbatarians argue that the Christian practice of Sunday observance — what became known as “the Lord’s day” — is wrong because it was not prevalent until the middle of the second century.16 Just because the practice was not prevalent before this time, however, proves nothing about whether it is correct. The New Testament mentions that believers met on the first day of the week (Acts 20:7; 1 Cor. 16:2). Though we cannot be certain about its origins, there are “reasons for holding that Sunday worship began at an early stage of Christian history and was from an early stage understood as commemorative of the Lord’s resurrection on the first day of the week.”17 This is also the best explanation of why Sunday became known as “the Lord’s day” (Rev. 1:10).
The SDA church argues that Jesus’ warning to His disciples to pray that their flight to escape would not “be in winter or on the Sabbath” (Matt. 24:20) implies that believers will be observing the Sabbath in that future day.18 This verse, of course, has various eschatological interpretations, but it does not necessarily imply that those who flee will be observing the Sabbath themselves. It necessarily implies only that those believers who flee will be in a land where the Sabbath is being observed, probably by non-Christian Jews.
The SDA church also holds that Isaiah 66:22–23 teaches that “God intended that His people should observe the Sabbath throughout eternity.”19 The context of this eschatological text, however, merely teaches that from month to month and from week to week, God’s people will worship Him. In that final state of God’s kingdom, which Revelation 21:3 tells us will have no need of sun or moon, there will be one perpetual day. John added that “there shall be no night there” (Rev. 21:25). How then could there be a cycle of seven days that would allow for a literal Sabbath? The Isaiah passage, in reality, says nothing about Sabbath worship. It simply means that God’s people will perpetually worship Him.
APOSTASY OR CHRISTIAN LIBERTY?
The New Testament records various struggles the new Christian church had in order to break the shackles of an old system of law keeping that bound many in their former religion — Judaism. Peter, for example, struggled with his Jewish background and initially refused God’s revelation to him that Gentiles should not be treated as ceremonially unclean but rather should be given the Gospel (Acts 10:9–20, 28). Peter subsequently proceeded to Caesarea to share the Gospel with the Roman centurion, Cornelius, and other Gentiles. When Peter returned to Jerusalem, some of the Jewish hierarchy in the Christian church “contended with him” (Acts 11:2).20 Peter explained how God had commanded him in a vision to go to Cornelius and the other Gentiles, and then what happened when they heard the saving Gospel about Jesus Christ. Luke recorded how this particular situation ended: “When they heard these things they became silent; and they glorified God, saying, ‘Then God has also granted to the Gentiles repentance to life’” (Acts 11:18).
God’s clear intention that Jewish law not be binding on believers after Christ’s death and resurrection was not, however, readily embraced by Christians with a Jewish heritage. Some years later, even after Paul and Barnabas took the Gospel to the Gentiles on their first missionary journey (Acts 13–14), the entire doctrine of salvation was in jeopardy of being compromised. Certain Judaic believers came to Antioch and boldly taught new Gentile believers that “unless you are circumcised according to the custom of Moses, you cannot be saved” (Acts 15:1). This controversy immediately led to the Jerusalem council recorded in Acts 15.
Some believers, who were also Pharisees, argued that “it is necessary to circumcise them [Gentiles], and to command them to keep the law of Moses” (Acts 15:5). The decision of the council, however, was that the law of Moses was not binding on Gentile believers. Peter even declared, “We believe that through the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, we [Jews] shall be saved in the same manner as they [Gentiles]” (Acts 15:11). Christ sets all believers free from the Mosaic law — no more circumcision, no more dietary restrictions, no more clean and unclean animals (see Lev. 11). Paul later warned against those who were “commanding to abstain from foods which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth” (1 Tim. 4:4). Paul affirmed, “For every creature of God is good, and nothing is to be refused if it is received with thanksgiving” (v. 5).
Paul also exhorted the Galatians to “stand fast therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us free, and do not be entangled again with a yoke of bondage” (Gal. 5:1). His appeal focused primarily on whether circumcision was a necessity for new believers, but the issue was much larger: if one adopts the practice of Jewish circumcision, he becomes “a debtor to keep the whole law” (Gal. 5:3). Of course, no one was ever saved by keeping the Jewish law. Those who seek to keep the law fall under its curse: “Cursed is everyone who does not continue in all things which are written in the book of the law, to do them” (Gal. 3:10).21 James voiced the same concept: “For whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one point, he is guilty of all” (James 2:10).
In Galatia, Paul and Barnabas founded churches on their first missionary journey. Shortly after they left, Judaizers tried to add to the Gospel of Christ, which Paul and Barnabas had proclaimed. Paul called this action a perverting or a distorting of the Gospel (Gal. 1:7). What did the Judaizers teach? They added law keeping to the Gospel as a means of salvation. Paul countered by arguing that the Mosaic law was like a tutor, a schoolmaster “to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith. But after faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor” (Gal. 3:24–25).
Again, Paul upbraided the Galatians by asking, “But now after you have known God…how is it that you turn again to the weak and beggarly elements, to which you desire again to be in bondage?” (Gal. 4:9). What was the evidence of their turning back? Paul accused them, “You observe days and months and seasons and years” (Gal. 4:10). Circumcision was another stumbling block. Paul concluded, “You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you are fallen from grace” (Gal. 5:4). They had attempted to be justified by keeping the law, but without success. They had fallen from the grace basis for salvation to a basis found in keeping the Mosaic law. Paul was saying in effect that those who continued to keep the law, which included keeping the Sabbath, were committing apostasy!
Paul also addressed this subject in his epistle to the Romans. There, under the topic of Christian liberty, he dealt with such issues as eating meat versus maintaining a vegetarian diet. He also broached the Sabbath question. Paul wrote, “One person esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind. He who observes the day, observes it to the Lord; and he who does not observe the day, to the Lord he does not observe it” (Rom. 14:5–6). Believers are now free to observe or not observe the Sabbath according to their consciences. They are not free to judge each other in this regard (v. 10), as the SDA church has clearly done by asserting that those who do not keep the seventh-day Sabbath are being disloyal to God. Such claims, as well as their teaching that Sunday observance is a sign of apostasy, undermine the clarification in some SDA literature that Sabbath keeping is a fruit and not a cause of salvation, and help explain the legalism that has been rampant throughout the denomination’s history.
HAS GOD ABROGATED THE SABBATH?
Can one say for sure that God has abrogated (done away with) the command to keep the Sabbath? Yes. In many respects God has changed His commands and laws. To fail to understand this creates confusion and misunderstanding of the Scriptures.
One clear illustration of God’s changing laws regards the eating of meat. Most would agree that God gave Adam and Eve a vegetarian diet: “Of every tree of the garden you may freely eat; but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat” (Gen. 2:16–17). We do not read of Adam and Eve having a barbeque prior to the Fall. After the Fall, however, they had to offer animal sacrifices. The sweet and delicious aroma of roasting meat would have filled the air. Did they eat those sacrifices? We are not told, although later, under the law of Moses, the offerer partook of certain of his sacrifices, such as the peace offering (Lev. 7:11–18).
After the Flood people freely ate meat — of all kinds. God declared, “Every moving thing that lives shall be food for you. I have given you all things, even as the green herbs” (Gen. 9:3). The only restriction was that the blood of animals not be consumed with the meat (Gen. 9:4). This illustrates a clear change God instituted in one of His initial commands to humankind. Conditions changed and God began something different, but that was not the end of the matter.
When the Jews arrived at Sinai, God restricted their diet (Lev. 11). There God distinguished between certain clean and unclean birds, land animals, and aquatic creatures. The point, however, is not that God declared some animals clean and others unclean at that time. That was known long before. Noah had taken both clean and unclean animals onto the ark (Gen. 7:2). The point of Leviticus 11 is that God restricted the eating habits of the Jews — and only of the Jews — to a specific diet that He approved at that time. The diet of all humankind, including the Jews, was unrestricted prior to that time, according to Genesis 9:3–4.
Even that is not the conclusion of the matter. After the cross, those Jewish dietary regulations were abolished. This is clearly taught in Peter’s vision (Acts 10:9–16, 28; 11:5–10) and in Paul’s epistles (Rom. 14:2–3; Col. 2:16; 1 Tim. 4:3–5). In a similar manner, the Sabbath is no longer binding on Christians (Col. 2:16). Christ has freed us from the law.
Christ released us from the Sabbath. His finished work on the cross abolished the entire Mosaic law of ordinances, which includes the Sabbath commandment. Only nine of the Ten Commandments are repeated in the New Testament. The reason for this is significant. The fourth commandment was part of the Jewish law system, which Paul called “the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us” (Col. 2:14). The moral standards in the other nine commandments regarding worshiping other gods and idols, taking God’s name in vain, dishonoring parents, murdering, committing adultery, stealing, lying, and coveting remain in effect because they reflect God’s very nature and as such are timeless.22 The expression of these moral standards in the form of the Ten Commandments, however, was not timeless. Paul clearly stated that Christ took this “handwriting of requirements” and “nailed it to the cross” (Col. 2:14).
The result could not be clearer. Paul’s “therefore” in Colossians 2:16 is based on the fact that Christ canceled the debt — all those Old Testament regulations that had plagued the Jews for centuries.23 “Therefore,” Paul concludes, “let no one judge you in food or in drink.” Those regulations were abolished. Pork is as lawful as beef, chicken, or fish. Even meats offered to idols were not prohibited, unless eating such food might cause a weaker brother’s conscience to stumble (1 Cor. 8:4–9).
Paul further concluded in verse 16 that no one can judge you “regarding a festival or a new moon or Sabbaths.” These three terms have particular reference to the yearly festivals such as Passover, Pentecost, and Tabernacles (Deut. 16:16); the monthly festival of the new moon when the trumpet was blown (Num. 10:10; Ps. 81:3); and the weekly observance of the Sabbath.24 This triple terminology of festivals, new moons, and Sabbaths is found elsewhere in the Old Testament (Isa. 1:13–14; Ezek. 45:17; Hos. 2:11); thus it was familiar to Paul’s Jewish readers.
The Colossian believers were to allow no one to pass judgment against them regarding Jewish Sabbath observances, new moons, or any other Jewish feasts. Why? Because Jesus Christ abolished those observances, which were mere shadows, whereas Jesus Himself is the substance, the body that creates the shadow. Christ is the reality. Oliver B. Greene correctly states, “Christianity knows no such thing as days, months or seasons. Every day is holy unto the Lord, and Christians should worship God every day.”25
The Sabbath rest, of course, pictures God’s finished, completed work, initially at Creation, then again with salvation by faith in Christ’s substitutionary death, burial, and resurrection for our sins. The writer of the epistle to the Hebrews used this Sabbath analogy to note that when one believes, he enters into the reality of God’s rest, pictured by the Sabbath. As a result, the believer “has himself also ceased from his works as God did from His” (Heb. 4:10).
SABBATH KEEPING TODAY?
Those who keep the Sabbath do so with a belief that law can be divided into moral and ceremonial aspects. They believe Sabbath observance is part of the moral aspect and remains in effect, but the detailed instructions are part of the ceremonial aspects that have been done away with in Christ. The law, however, cannot be so easily divided. Deuteronomy 27:26, for example, cited by both Paul (Gal. 3:10; cf. 5:3) and James (James 2:10), shows that keeping the law is a two-edged sword — to fail in one point makes one guilty of all. The New Testament, furthermore, provides no clear distinction between moral and ceremonial aspects of the Mosaic law and frequently speaks of the entire law (e.g., Gal 3:23–24; 4:4–5).
What would Sabbath keeping look like today if one were to practice it? Let us not discuss Pharisaical perversions or additions to the Sabbath, but just what God’s Word teaches.
According to Exodus 16:29, God required strict home-abiding on the Sabbath for all Israelites. In today’s economy the airlines, buses, trains, and roadways would be empty. Orthodox Jews in some parts of Jerusalem will stone cars that are driven through their neighborhoods on Saturday. Nehemiah took stern action against buying and selling on the Sabbath (Neh. 10:31; 13:15–22). Department stores and the malls would need to remain closed. Restaurants and individuals would fall under the ban on baking and boiling food (Exod. 16:23). Seeking and finding one’s “own pleasure” and doing one’s “own ways” were also prohibited on the Sabbath (Isa. 58:13). Death was exacted on any violators, including whoever performed any work (Exod. 31:14–15; 35:2), even gathering sticks (Num. 15:32, 35).
What would be possible on the Sabbath? Jesus attended synagogue, worshiped God, taught and applied the Scriptures, performed deeds of mercy and encouraged others to do the same, and He no doubt rested from some of His usual labor.
If there is a principle that one day in seven belongs to God, then it should be used to arrest us from our normal pursuits and allow us to devote more attention to God’s Word and work, but Christians are not obligated to observe the Sabbath, nor are they committing apostasy if they exercise their Christian liberty not to observe the Sabbath.

NOTES
All Bible quotations are from the New King James Version unless otherwise noted.
Everett F. Harrison, ed., Baker’s Dictionary of Theology (Grand Rapids: Baker Book House, 1960), s.v. “Sabbatarianism.”
Philip Schaff, ed., A Religious Encyclopaedia: or Dictionary of Biblical, Historical, Doctrinal, and Practical Theology, rev. ed. (New York: Christian Literature, 1888), s.v. “Seventh-day Baptists.”
Ibid. This same argument is also reported in Cyclopedia of Biblical, Theological and Ecclesiastical Literature (New York: Harper and Brothers, 1880), s.v. “Sabbatarians.”
Seventh-day Adventists Answer Questions on Doctrine (Washington, DC: Review and Herald, 1957), 149. For a refutation of SDA arguments, see Walter Martin, The Kingdom of the Cults, rev. 30th anniv. ed. (Minneapolis: Bethany House, 1997), 568–81.
Seventh-day Adventists Believe… (Washington, DC: General Conference of Seventh-day Adventists, 1988), 254. The bracketed Bible references are my own listing of key passages Adventists use to support this point.
“Fundamental Beliefs of Seventh-Day Adventists” (1980), 18, cited in Seventh-day Adventists Believe…, 232.
Seventh-day Adventists Believe…, 256.
Seventh-day Adventists Answer Questions, 152. “Through the prophecy of Daniel 7 God revealed His foreknowledge of the change of the day of worship” (Seventh-day Adventists Believe…, 260).
James Orr, ed., International Standard Bible Encyclopaedia (Grand Rapids: Eerdmans, 1939), s.v. “Sabbath: Seventh-day Adventist Position.”
Seventh-day Adventists Believe…, 256.
Andrew T. Lincoln, “From Sabbath to Lord’s Day: A Biblical and Theological Perspective,” in From Sabbath to Lord’s Day: A Biblical, Historical, and Theological Investigation, ed. D. A. Carson (Grand Rapids: Zondervan, 1982), 348.
A Religious Encyclopaedia.
Second Chronicles 36:21 references a prophecy made by Jeremiah, but the precise passage is obscure. Daniel 9:2 mentions Jeremiah’s prediction of 70 years of desolation. Perhaps Jeremiah 25:11–12; 29:10 is the referent.
International Standard Bible Encyclopaedia.
A Religious Encyclopaedia.
R. J. Bauckham, “The Lord’s Day,” in From Sabbath to Lord’s Day: A Biblical, Historical, and Theological Investigation, ed. D. A. Carson (Grand Rapids: Zondervan, 1982), 240.
Seventh-day Adventists Believe…, 253.
Ibid., 254.
“Contended” in the kjv and nkjv. Other translations say, “took issue with him” (nasb), “criticized him” (rsv, tev, niv, nrsv, nlb), “found fault with him” (Weymouth), and “began to bring charges against him” (Williams).
Paul is citing Deuteronomy 27:26.
The New Testament reaffirmations of the Ten Commands are: (1) no other gods, Luke 10:27; (2) no idols, 1 John 5:21; (3) no swearing, Matt. 5:33–37; (4) keep the Sabbath, no references; (5) honor parents, Matt. 19:19; (6) no murder, Matt. 19:19 and Rom. 13:9; (7) no adultery, Matt. 19:18; (8) no stealing, Eph. 4:28; (9) no lying, Col. 3:9; and (10) no coveting, Matt. 5:28.
Williams translates this as “canceled the note,” referring to a note or bond. Weymouth similarly says, “The bond…He cancelled.” Moffatt has, “He cancelled the regulations.” The niv says that Christ “canceled the written code, with its regulations.” The esv wording is, “Canceling the record of debt that stood against us with its legal demands.”
H. C. G. Moule, Colossian Studies (London: Hodder and Stoughton, 1898), 174. See also Everett F. Harrison, Colossians: Christ All-Sufficient (Chicago: Moody, 1971), 65; G. G. Findlay, “Colossians” in The Pulpit Commentary, eds. H. D. M. Spence and Joseph S. Exell (Grand Rapids: Eerdmans, 1962), XX, 92; and especially John Eadie, Commentary on the Epistle of Paul to the Colossians (reprint, Grand Rapids: Zondervan, 1957), 176–77.
Oliver B. Greene, The Epistle of Paul the Apostle to the Colossians

[HarvestLabourer]

11 hours ago, When Is Jesus Coming? said:

Putting words into the mouth of those who you are debating with and then engage in your own made up debate shows your inability to debate the subject matter presented. This may be a fear of yours to understand new things. You can re-educate yourself to over come this disability and further your knowledge.

Thank you WhenIsJesusComing.

I wasn't actually debating you, I was agreeing with you,
except for about the Calendar.

We are not to observe times.
 

11 hours ago, When Is Jesus Coming? said:

Believing you hear God's voice is more often than not a sign of self delusion or in rare cases madness, sometimes a bit of both. I would be wary of this phenomenon of yours.

Not many are able to believe.
 

11 hours ago, When Is Jesus Coming? said:

We don't need to keep  the Passover, that was merely one of the ritualistic Feasts and Holy Days the Jews had to keep in order for them to recognise the coming Messiah who would fulfil them. Jesus fulfilled 10 of the 12 Feasts and Holy Days. He will fulfil the 2 that are left, Atonement and Tabernacles, when He returns.

Now I can say to you,
you know nothing about God's commandments and their importance.

You were saying how important they were, that even Jesus kept them all His life,
but you don't need to keep them?
And never let the Lord passover you?

I do, as often as I can.
And He does come quickly
Paul

He which testifies these things saith,
Surely I come quickly.
Amen.
Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
Revelation 22:20

[HarvestLabourer]

Thank you, Other One.

Now for what the Lord says.
 

8 hours ago, other one said:

IS SABBATH KEEPING A UNIVERSAL MORAL OBLIGATION?

Ye shall keep My sabbaths, and reverence My sanctuary:
I am the LORD.
Leviticus 19:30
 

8 hours ago, other one said:

IS SABBATH KEEPING A PERPETUAL OBLIGATION?

Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath,
to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant.
Exodus 31:16
 

8 hours ago, other one said:

APOSTASY OR CHRISTIAN LIBERTY?

But take heed
lest by any means this liberty of yours become a stumblingblock to them that are weak.
1 Corinthians 8:9
 

8 hours ago, other one said:

HAS GOD ABROGATED THE SABBATH?

Heaven and earth shall pass away, but My words shall not pass away.
Matthew 24:35
 

8 hours ago, other one said:

SABBATH KEEPING TODAY?

Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood,
to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.
1 Peter 2:5

Bless God,
keep His commandments
Paul

I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God,
that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God,
which is your reasonable service.
Romans 12:1

[other one]

PFFFT

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40 minutes ago, other one said:

PFFFT

Calm thy spirit buffalo.    calm .    Be blessed and praise the Lord.    I was about to start it like I have other times with The buffalo has spoken.  but it was just this one word pffft.

be kind my friend .   be kind .