gas prices going up signs and punishment from god?

April 14, 2005

Ok well you all know about the gas prices going up right? Well i have heard many things about this and one of things i heard is what i heard in youth group tonight...My youth minister siad that he thought that gas prices was a sign and punishment from god. He thought that it was some people's punshiment for not believing and following him. And mostly taking religon out of school! I dont know if this is true but i really want to know but im sooo clueless...is this what the gas prices are, a sign from god? Well what do you guys think about it?

Cori

April 14, 2005

What gas prices are going up? *gasp* Why, no corporation would do that to the hard-working public!

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April 14, 2005

I'm thinking that gas prices aren't a sign from God, but rather, a sign of man's greed. That's all that supply-and-demand is. The more you can get away with charging, charge it. That's essentially the way our market is run, for good or fo ill. Hope this helps.

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ayin jade · April 14, 2005

Personally I dont. Of course, nearly everything could be a sign from God in these latter days. Matthew 24 talks about the signs of the end. These are things to watch for. If you think about it, many of the things in verses 6-12 are happening now.

Matthew 24
3 And as He sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? And what shall be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the world?
4 And Jesus answered and said to them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
5 For many will come in My name, saying, I am Christ, and will deceive many.
6 And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not troubled, for all these things must occur; but the end is not yet.
7 For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. And there will be famines and pestilences and earthquakes in different places.
8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.
9 Then they will deliver you up to be afflicted and will kill you. And you will be hated of all nations for My name's sake.
10 And then many will be offended, and will betray one another, and will hate one another.
11 And many false prophets will rise and deceive many.
12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many will become cold.
13 But he who endures to the end, the same shall be kept safe.
14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be proclaimed in all the world as a witness to all nations. And then the end shall come.
15 Therefore when you see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place (whoever reads, let him understand).
16 Then let those in Judea flee into the mountains.
17 Let him on the housetop not come down to take anything out of his house;
18 nor let him in the field turn back to take his clothes.
19 And woe to those who are with child, and to those who give suck in those days!
20 But pray that your flight is not in the winter, nor on the sabbath day;
21 for then shall be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world to this time; no, nor ever shall be.
22 And unless those days should be shortened, no flesh would be saved. But for the elect's sake, those days shall be shortened.
23 Then if any man shall say to you, Lo, here is Christ! Or, There! Do not believe it.
24 For false Christs and false prophets will arise and show great signs and wonders; so much so that, if it were possible, they would deceive even the elect.
25 Behold, I have told you beforehand.
26 Therefore if they shall say to you, Behold, He is in the desert! Do not go out. Behold, He is in the secret rooms! Do not believe it.
27 For as the lightning comes out of the east and shines even to the west, so also will be the coming of the Son of man.
28 For wherever the carcass is, there the eagles will be gathered.
29 And immediately after the tribulation of those days, the sun shall be darkened and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from the heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken.
30 And then the sign of the Son of man shall appear in the heavens. And then all the tribes of the earth shall mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of the heaven with power and great glory.
31 And He shall send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather His elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.

Keith · April 14, 2005

Cori Woods,

Hello and welcome to Worthy Boards! I pray you will be blessed here!

Regarding gas and oil prices, there was a discussion earlier and Cerran posted something that made a lot of sense! I've pasted it below... Please print it and show it to your youth pastor. He has no scriptural basis for what he said.

Apr 8 2005, 10:26 PM Post #19

Average price of $22 in 1990 and average price in 2004 (finally found it) of $38.47 is almost double the price. By simple math it should at the very least be almost double the price. Account for inflation of 18% and bam you have $2.10 gas.

$38.47 is 75% more than $22

1.75 x $1.00 gas in 1990 is $1.75 + 18% inflation = $2.065 per gallon.

Now Add $0.45 - $0.70 for taxes and bam $2.50-$2.75 gas.

Now account for higher emissions requirements, China, and Refinery Capacity.

Gas is artifically held low in price by US government subsidies as well. Corprate welfare to oil companies is commonplace.

Even without tax, gas should be well over $1.75 a gallon. Actual prices without government intervention put it at around $5 - $7 a gallon.

other one · April 14, 2005

cori, I really dont' think it is that way. For the gas prices are dropping here and I don't think we as a people have made any real changes in the last week or so. I paid 2.03 for gas yesterday and it has been in the 2.30's in the past couple of weeks. Like the others I think it is the natural flow of the general economy and higher and higher usage by other countries.

As for taking God out of our schools, it is my personal opinion that God was brought to school by us in the past, and the problem of God in the school is that God is not in the majority of the homes in our nation so there are not many taking Him to school in a lot of places.

To resolve this problem we need to focus in getting God back into all our homes, and when that happens He will end up back in school. In reality it is a bit more complex than that, the road back to school will have to go through our court system and a couple of other places, but it will have to start with the home.

Remember though that this is just one older guys opinion....

Hope that makes sense......