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Guys, let's consider when Trump will destroy the North Korea.

And let's analyze his policy in the Middle East.

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2 minutes ago, mven222 said:

Guys, let's consider when Trump will destroy the North Korea.

And let's analyze his policy.

Let's not. God is in control and only He knows what will happen.

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Why are you afraid to do that?

Situational Awareness is useful to be prepared for future.

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I even gave him some advice....Advice for you is useful too.

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2 minutes ago, mven222 said:

I even gave him some advice....Advice for you is useful too.

Gave him advice, gave who advise?

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17 minutes ago, mven222 said:

I even gave him some advice....Advice for you is useful too.

 

9 minutes ago, mven222 said:

lol forget that

hey now you got us on the edge of our seats

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3 hours ago, mven222 said:

Guys, let's consider when Trump will destroy the North Korea.

And let's analyze his policy in the Middle East.

What makes you certain its a "when" instead of an "if"?

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3 hours ago, mven222 said:

Guys, let's consider when Trump will destroy the North Korea.

And let's analyze his policy in the Middle East.

Rather, let's not. Those are living human beings over there.

 

3 hours ago, mven222 said:

Why are you afraid to do that?

Situational Awareness is useful to be prepared for future.

Because it is seeking the destruction of living human beings, a great deal of whom are not saved and need to hear the Gospel. Thi isn't some sort of reality TV ,  where people get "voted off the island"; this is real life, and the consequences are permanent.

If you want true "situational awareness", then perhaps you might want to check the condition of your own heart before trying to tell everyone else what to do.

 

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even tho the head guy in charge in n.k. is not a ray of sunshine, the destruction of n.k. would be another horror on earth.  for a christian peace should be sought after unless peace is unobtainable.  even tho, he desires to make the world burn, we should pray for peace.  I hope n.k. is not destroyed.  I do think the point of no return hasnt been breached concerning nk. and usa.

 

as far as jihadists go, the point of no return has been breached.   let the birds leave the coop and let it rain. 

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