Something that i read about kids in the bible that got to me

[john1]

41 minutes ago, simplejeff said:

No,  it was not and is not in the law , TORAH.   He misquoted/ then you, not knowing the Bible,  did too.

Deuteronomy chapter 21 verse 20 and 21

They shall say to the elders, "This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a glutton and a drunkard."
 

Then all the men of his town are to stone him to death. You must purge the evil from among you. All Israel will hear of it and be afraid.

46 minutes ago, john1 said:

1 Timothy chapter 1 verse7, 8

They want to be teachers of the law but they do not know what they are talking about or what they so confidently affirm.

We know that the law is good if one uses it properly.

 

[john1]

23 minutes ago, zorgblar said:

Thanks!Thought it was a kid.Got it wrong i guess.:)

Leviticus chapter 24 verse 10 through 14

Now the son of an Israelite mother and an Egyptian father went out among the Israelites, and a fight broke out in the camp between him and an Israelite.

The son of the Israelite woman blasphemed the Name with a curse; so they brought him to Moses. (His mother's name was Shelomith, the daughter of Dibri the Danite.)
They put him in custody until the will of the LORD should be made clear to them.

Then the LORD said to Moses:

"Take the blasphemer outside the camp. All those who heard him are to lay their hands on his head, and the entire assembly is to stone him.

 

 

Both children were probably teenagers, but no one knows, and why would an adult live at home, when they could be married.

[john1]

Joshua chapter 7 verse 20

Achan replied, "It is true! I have sinned against the LORD, the God of Israel. This is what I have done:

I didn't put in verse 21,22,23

Joshua chapter 7 verse 24

Then Joshua, together with all Israel, took Achan son of Zerah, the silver, the robe, the gold bar, his sons and daughters, his cattle, donkeys and sheep, his tent and all that he had, to the Valley of Achor.

 

But these were children.

 

 

[TheMatrixHasU71]

17 hours ago, zorgblar said:

Why was it allowed for a mom and dad to have their child put to death for misbehaving?

The child was likely a grown child, not a young one. 

[TheMatrixHasU71]

15 hours ago, john1 said:

Because that was in the law, also a father could molest his daughter, and say he didn't and she would be put to death.

Would like to know where you are getting that from. 

[Jayne]

17 hours ago, john1 said:

Because that was in the law, also a father could molest his daughter, and say he didn't and she would be put to death.

What is the world do you mean by saying this abomination was in the law, which is in the Bible?

Can you cite the chapter and verse please?  Many people on the internet read what we post and you are posting untruths about God's Word and people are reading it and thinking, "Well, if it's on a Christian message board, it must be true."

Please give us the reference for that passage or delete your post.

[john1]

5 hours ago, Jayne said:

Please give us the reference for that passage or delete your post.

Deuteronomy chapter 22 verse 20 and 21

If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the young woman's virginity can be found,

she shall be brought to the door of her father's house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. She has done an outrageous thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father's house. You must purge the evil from among you.

 

Because that was in the law, also a father could molest his daughter, and say he didn't and she would be put to death.

 

It just shows the law, and what could be done, I'd read the whole chapter, we know there were child molesters then, and sometimes fathers molest their own daughters.

[john1]

8 hours ago, TheMatrixHasU71 said:

Would like to know where you are getting that from. 

 

7 minutes ago, john1 said:

Deuteronomy chapter 22 verse 20 and 21

If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the young woman's virginity can be found,

she shall be brought to the door of her father's house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. She has done an outrageous thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father's house. You must purge the evil from among you.

 

Because that was in the law, also a father could molest his daughter, and say he didn't and she would be put to death.

 

It just shows the law, and what could be done, I'd read the whole chapter, we know there were child molesters then, and sometimes fathers molest their own daughters.

 

[Jayne]

10 minutes ago, john1 said:

Deuteronomy chapter 22 verse 20 and 21

If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the young woman's virginity can be found,

she shall be brought to the door of her father's house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. She has done an outrageous thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father's house. You must purge the evil from among you.

 

Because that was in the law, also a father could molest his daughter, and say he didn't and she would be put to death.

 

It just shows the law, and what could be done, I'd read the whole chapter, we know there were child molesters then, and sometimes fathers molest their own daughters.

Sorry,  you need to read the whole passage once more.

Deuteronomy 22:13-21

• If a man takes a wife and the marriage is consummated and he doesn't like her, sometimes he will accuse her of things she didn't do and try to bring a bad name upon her.  He might say, "I do not believe she was a virgin."
• The parents then will will "spread the cloak" before the elders.  What cloak?  The cloak she lay on when the marriage was consummated.  The parents have possession of that.  She gives it to them.
• If they have proof and the husband is just lying because he doesn't like her, then the elders of the city will take him and whip him and fine him 500 shekels of silver to give to her family for dishonoring her name - the name of a virgin.
• If it's true - and there is no evidence of her being a virgin - [she did not put the cloak under her because she knew she wasn't a virgin], then she shall be stoned to death for whoring in her own father's house.
• The implication is that her parents did not know and she lied about being a virgin to her parents and her husband.  God said that was evil and to purge it.

There is NOTHING about a father molesting his daughter and getting away with it.  Not even remotely.

 

[john1]

19 minutes ago, Jayne said:

There is NOTHING about a father molesting his daughter and getting away with it.

But a father could molest his child, and say she was guilty, why would he say he was, that would get him stoned. And I've heard that %5 of americans are molesters some of them even hide in church.

I saw a pastor get arrested once, for doing that.