God curses those against the jewish people

[Heleadethme]

17 hours ago, tigger398 said:

Ok I know God will curse those against the jewish people. When hitler went and killed millions of jewish people. God didn't do anything to them.

In saying to Abraham that God will curse those who curse him, his spiritual descendants are included in that too.  However, it's true that the Lord chastises those who do harm to Israel or the Jews, even those who HE sends against them to chastise them, as it also says elsewhere in the bible.  Hitler was plagued by multiple health problems and then died by suicide when his kingdom was crashing down around him.  His nation of Germany was split in two, and half given to the Communists.  So it seems that God did deal with them, and I think their attitude did improve, for a while at least.  (We don't know what the future will bring....it doesn't seem to take long for the lessons of history to be forgotten, and that generation is dying off now.)

Good to keep in mind, that under the new covenant it is no longer an eye for an eye but we are to bless those who curse us.

[LadyKay]

18 hours ago, tigger398 said:

When hitler went and killed millions of jewish people. God didn't do anything to them.

If you know your history you will see that God did. 

[Heleadethme]

12 hours ago, LightShinesInTheDarkness said:

Christians who want to bless the Jews should evangelize them. The only relevant blessings and promises for the Jews today are in Christ.

I agree with this statement.  However their gifts and calling are irrevocable, and they are beloved for the sake of the faithful patriarchs, as their descendants.  And in the end Israel is going to receive her promises and blessing in Christ......and be the head of nations again, in Him.  Though i also believe we need to be prepared for some shocking and disappointing things to happen before then.

[Heleadethme]

1 hour ago, shiloh357 said:

No, you don't know what the Bible teaches about it.  

You could have just saved a lot of time and just posted  "I hate Jews"  and that would pretty much summed up everything you said.

Now really Shiloh...........how on earth would you know if she hates Jews.....did God tell you, or did she say so, or do you see her life and how she treats the Jewish people she comes across?  Really brother that is a harsh thing to say......a person can have a different take on the bible than you without being antisemitic, it's not as though a lot of things in the bible are easy to be understood......and there are twice as many opinions about many things as there are Christians.  Believe it or not it's actually possible that a person could actually just be honestly mistaken about some things in scripture without it meaning they have hatred in their heart.  Jesus did not go around calling even the Romans Jew haters and antisemitic....not sure where you got the mistaken impression that He requires us to.

[Heleadethme]

7 minutes ago, Yowm said:

Where this is stated, I believe in Romans, it is referring to two groups of Jews. Those who are natural Jews but have not faith and those who are natural Jews but do have faith. The Church is never referred to as Israel.

That's funny, because Israel is referred to as the church.  

[Guest shiloh357]

3 minutes ago, Heleadethme said:

Now really Shiloh...........how on earth would you know if she hates Jews.....did God tell you, or did she say so, or do you see her life and how she treats the Jewish people she comes across?  Really brother that is a harsh thing to say......a person can have a different take on the bible than you without being antisemitic, it's not as though a lot of things in the bible are easy to be understood......and there are twice as many opinions about many things as there are Christians.  Believe it or not it's actually possible that a person could actually just be honestly mistaken about some things in scripture without it meaning they have hatred in their heart.  Jesus did not go around calling even the Romans Jew haters and antisemitic....not sure where you got the mistaken impression that He requires us to.

Anti-Semitism is what it is.   Seems that it's okay to say horrible things about the Jews and Israel.   If someone were to talk about any other race of people, it would be condemned as racist and bigoted.  Yet when the Jews are plugged into that same equation, suddenly it's okay and people rush to defend the anti-Semites.   Like I said, anti-Semitism has become socially acceptable and even considered a legitimate theological position, these days.  

[Guest shiloh357]

4 minutes ago, Heleadethme said:

That's funny, because Israel is referred to as the church.  

The Israel is not the church and the Bible does not use either Israel or Church as interchangeable terms.

[LightShinesInTheDarkness]

13 minutes ago, Yowm said:

That's strange, it looked like you were geared up to debate me. 

There's nothing to debate. Nothing I said was false, and I stand by my original statements. 

[Guest]

13 hours ago, LightShinesInTheDarkness said:

So there's no reason why God would have cursed Germany for what it did to the Jews during WWII (much of which was exaggerated by the Jews, and I don't say this as a matter of personal opinion but as a matter of fact)

That is an anti-Semitic statement!

[Heleadethme]

18 minutes ago, Yowm said:

Oh? Where?

"the church in the wilderness"