1 Corinthians 11:15 (long haired women)

[LadyKay]

1 minute ago, Butero said:

It might be helpful in understanding why you would openly oppose something in scripture.  I see this happening a lot, where the Bible will say something in the New Testament, and then people will oppose it.  Look at how people defended drinking blood, when in Acts, it was something we were told was necessary to abstain from?  It makes no sense.  

Okay. But I need sometime to get my thoughts together.  

[LadyKay]

Okay I think I can get back to the topic now. Sorry I do get a bit carried away at times. But anyway,  I think we need to look at the next verse.  The next verse reads.  

 But if anyone seems to be contentious, we have no such custom, nor do the churches of God.   1 Corinthians 11:16

What is meant by this? I am going to do more research and see what I can find. 

[simplejeff]

4 minutes ago, LadyKay said:

But if anyone seems to be contentious, we have no such custom, nor do the churches of God.   1 Corinthians 11:16

What is meant by this? I am going to do more research and see what I can find. 

It means all of the assemblies were in agreement with the Apostles,  simply that all the women wore a head covering appropriately, without any argument nor debate - they were all in agreement.  

This is rarely seen today amongst man's gatherings/ assemblies/  

but is seen when YHVH grants this in His Grace.

"research" ,  note that the full and clear exegesis/ revelation of YHVH'S Purpose and Plan/  is, or was , available online at a few websites, accurately in line with All of Scripture, and opposed to man's traditions over-riding God's Word.

[LadyKay]

1 minute ago, simplejeff said:

It means all of the assemblies were in agreement with the Apostles,  simply that all the women wore a head covering appropriately, without any argument nor debate - they were all in agreement.  

This is rarely seen today amongst man's gatherings/ assemblies/  

but is seen when YHVH grants this in His Grace.

"research" ,  note that the full and clear exegesis/ revelation of YHVH'S Purpose and Plan/  is, or was , available online at a few websites, accurately in line with All of Scripture, and opposed to man's traditions over-riding God's Word.

I am thinking it is reading that the Churches of God had no such rule for hair.    But if anyone seems to be contentious, we have no such custom, nor do the churches of God.  

[LadyKay]

2 minutes ago, Davida said:

Interesting...so basically you are saying that unless a Christian obeys GOD's Word to the letter they will LOSE their SALVATION. 

No I am saying I do not know what you are talking about or accusing me of saying? 

[Guest Butero]

11 minutes ago, LadyKay said:

I am thinking it is reading that the Churches of God had no such rule for hair.    But if anyone seems to be contentious, we have no such custom, nor do the churches of God.  

It is not a hard, fast sin issue.  It is symbolic.  I choose to have short hair as a sign I am in submission to the Lord, rather than in rebellion.  I don't wish to bring shame to my Lord.  That is why women should have long hair.  Those who are contentious in this matter aren't necessarily hell bound, but they are a shame to their head.

[LadyKay]

42 minutes ago, Butero said:

It might be helpful in understanding why you would openly oppose something in scripture.  I see this happening a lot, where the Bible will say something in the New Testament, and then people will oppose it.  Look at how people defended drinking blood, when in Acts, it was something we were told was necessary to abstain from?  It makes no sense.  

I am in tune with God. What I do and what I do not do is based on how God directs my life. On the times I have gone and cut my hair, I have never felt any conviction for doing so. Therefor I feel that it is alright for me to have short hair if i chose to do so.  I believe that some of the things Paul said at the time was because of the traditions at the time.  No where do I see him saying it is a sin for a women to have short hair. But Now that I have looked into it it seems to be a very interesting topic. I will do more research on it and see what more I can find. 

[LadyKay]

8 minutes ago, Butero said:

I don't wish to bring shame to my Lord.  That is why women should have long hair.  Those who are contentious in this matter aren't necessarily hell bound, but they are a shame to their head.

Then one must do what they think is the right thing for them to do. How God directs them to do.  But I do not think that we should look at a women with short hair and say "you are not as holy as I am for shame!" 

[Guest Butero]

2 minutes ago, LadyKay said:

I am in tune with God. What I do and what I do not do is based on how God directs my life. On the times I have gone and cut my hair, I have never felt any conviction for doing so. Therefor I feel that it is alright for me to have short hair if i chose to do so.  I believe that some of the things Paul said at the time was because of the traditions at the time.  No where do I see him saying it is a sin for a women to have short hair. But Now that I have looked into it it seems to be a very interesting topic. I will do more research on it and see what more I can find. 

I can't always get to a barber when I get a bit shaggy, but I was so bothered by the thought of shaming the Lord, I bought barber shears to cut it myself if necessary.  Sometimes those hair cuts don't come out good, but that is better than the alternative.  

[simplejeff]

34 minutes ago, LadyKay said:

I am thinking it is reading that the Churches of God had no such rule for hair.    But if anyone seems to be contentious, we have no such custom, nor do the churches of God.  

If you do "research" as you said, and pray always,   truthfully seeking YHVH (God), and trusting Jesus only, with your whole heart,

He will show you the truth,  and the truth will set you free (from many of man's traditions and errors).