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8 minutes ago, n2thelight said:

Where is the rapture in the Old Testament?

There are no prophecies about the Church in the OT.   So there would be no mention of the rapture of the Church in the OT.  

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1 hour ago, shiloh357 said:

There are no prophecies about the Church in the OT.   So there would be no mention of the rapture of the Church in the OT.  

Was Christ written of in the Old?

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1 hour ago, n2thelight said:

What's the purpose of the rapture?

Hi n2thelight,

The purpose of the rapture, the catching away, is for the mature Body of Christ to go with the Head of the Body to the third heaven where the Lord will be enthroned amid heaven`s acclaim. There the Lord will take up the judgment authority given by the Father and with His Body bring judgment upon the fallen angels, and also upon the world system. Hallelujah!!!!

Marilyn.

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1 hour ago, shiloh357 said:

There are no prophecies about the Church in the OT.   So there would be no mention of the rapture of the Church in the OT.  

So when Christ asked,have you not read,what was He talking about?

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7 minutes ago, Marilyn C said:

Hi n2thelight,

The purpose of the rapture, the catching away, is for the mature Body of Christ to go with the Head of the Body to the third heaven where the Lord will be enthroned amid heaven`s acclaim. There the Lord will take up the judgment authority given by the Father and with His Body bring judgment upon the fallen angels, and also upon the world system. Hallelujah!!!!

Marilyn.

So this is before the Great White Throne Judgement?

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Question may have been answered,but where are the raptured during the millennium ?

 

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30 minutes ago, Marilyn C said:

Hi n2thelight,

The purpose of the rapture, the catching away, is for the mature Body of Christ to go with the Head of the Body to the third heaven where the Lord will be enthroned amid heaven`s acclaim. There the Lord will take up the judgment authority given by the Father and with His Body bring judgment upon the fallen angels, and also upon the world system. Hallelujah!!!!

Marilyn.

The judgement does not happen until after the mil,with the exception of the 7000(angels)that die instantly at the return of Christ.

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3 hours ago, n2thelight said:

So when Christ asked,have you not read,what was He talking about?

The OT Scriptures

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Also,what is the definition of Church?

The Church is a redeemed community who have been born again by faith in Jesus Christ.

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