To OneGodBeliever- the list you gave me

[HAZARD]

2 hours ago, Mishael said:

Here's a good article:

https://www.catholic.com/magazine/online-edition/refuting-the-pagan-roots-of-christmas-claim

Straight from the mouth of the devils church, 

[Mishael]

4 hours ago, HAZARD said:

Straight from the mouth of the devils church, 

A little logic would clue you in that a decorated piece of wood is not idolatry but rather the worship of that object. You could take it father than that and not build wooden homes with these type of verses. This is pure insanity.
Like I said have you seen anyone worshipping their Christmass tree? The simple act of cutting down a tree, working it with tools and covering it with gold is not condemned in Jeremiah  10:1-5 but the making of idols to be worshipped as gods. In Exodus 25:13, the LORD said to Moses, “You shall make poles of acacia wood, and overlay them with gold.”

 

[Mishael]

4 hours ago, KiwiChristian said:

anti-Christian source.

 

If you guys can use the term "anticatholic", i can use the term "anti-Christian"

It's not an anti Christian source only in your opinion is it. Even if it was anti Christian can you refute it?

[Mishael]

4 hours ago, KiwiChristian said:

"Adolf Hitler, son of the Catholic Church, died while defending Christianity." 05/03/1945 Franco. 

Hitler: "As for the Jews, I am just carrying on with the same policy which the Catholic church has adopted for fifteen hundred years, when it has regarded the Jews as dangerous and pushed them into ghettos"

 

You do know the Catholic Church itself opposed the Holocaust and Hitler's actions, not to mention Hitler's persecuted the Catholic Church in Germany.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_persecution_of_the_Catholic_Church_in_Germany

[Debp]

11 hours ago, HAZARD said:

Where's the Scriptures proving Christmas is to be celebrated by Christians? Did the apostles celebrate Christmas? Show us one scripture. In fact, show me one Scripture containing the word Christmas, in any version of the bible. 

I think it's a good thing that there is a time of year when ours, and hopefully others, thoughts turn to the birth of Christ.   People are more apt to accept your invitation to go to church around Christmas.    I hear from indigenous missionaries that Hindus and even some Muslims will come for celebrations at Christmas time, where they also hear the Gospel.

Sure Dec 25 isn't the actual date and the word Christmas isn't in the Bible,  but anything that draws the world's attention to Christ each year  is very beneficial in my opinion.   Christ has been removed from society so much, so please allow some of us to celebrate His birth each year.

[TheMatrixHasU71]

9 hours ago, KiwiChristian said:

I've emailed him again and will see what happens, if anything.

Well, remember what I told him in one of my lasts posts to him. I said God led you here, but not for the reasons he may think. If he thinks God led him here to convince us that Islam is the truth then he may as well leave because he will never convince us that Islam is anything but an evil lie. Sooooo, guess he chose to leave.

He wasnt willing to listen to the other possibility I told him, that God led him here to learn the real truth

Edited April 27, 2018 by TheMatrixHasU71

[TheMatrixHasU71]

12 hours ago, Mishael said:

You can't prove Christmas is of pagan origin, you jut don't want to admit that you have no proof. I still find it weird that your quoting from an Anti Christian Jewish Rabbi.

Umm yeah it is of pagan origin, its easy enough to look up. There is no way that Christ was born in winter as the shepherds would not have been out in the field by night. December 25 is a pagan holiday that the Catholic church adopted to appease the pagans and to assuage the feelings of those "Christians" who wanted to take part in the celebrations without feeling guilty.

I urge you again to read Alexander Hyslop's Two Babylons. Also....

http://www.hope-of-israel.org/cmas1.htm

https://www.gotquestions.org/Christmas-origin.html

https://www.simpletoremember.com/vitals/Christmas_TheRealStory.htm

 

[TheMatrixHasU71]

On 4/25/2018 at 10:52 AM, Mishael said:

There's no goddess worship in the Roman Catholic Church, Easter and Christmas aren't pagan festivals these are two common myths and both were celebrated by early Christians.

You really need to do some homework here for the Catholic Church worships Mary as a goddess and Easter/Astarte and Christmas ARE pagan. This stuff is very easy to find and they WERENT celebrated by early Christians

[TheMatrixHasU71]

On 4/25/2018 at 10:52 AM, Mishael said:

Feast days were also done by early Christians, Pontifex Maximus literally means bridge builder or bridge maker, it was cone used as a pagan title, but the title itself isn't necessarily pagan

Christians in the first century did not celebrate pagan feast days (the love feasts mentioned in the bible were themselves rebuked by the apostles as so many people were being left out that they said its better to eat at home first) and since the title of Pontiff/whatever never originated with Judaism it is a pagan title. And the whole concept of an earthly head of a universal church is also not of Judeo/Christian origin. The true "Vicar" of Christ on earth is the Holy Spirit alone, never a man. 

And as for the Pope Gregory 1 meeting pagans halfway, incorporating pagan practices into the church, goodness man look it up! Why wont you do the work on your own when its plenty easy to find?

http://www.christiandataresources.com/pagancatholicism.htm

http://bibletruth.orgfree.com/articles/MeetPagans.pdf

https://www.biblebelievers.com/babylon/sect33.htm

http://www.goodnewsaboutgod.com/studies/holidays2.htm

 

And as for your comment that the papal mitre itsnt a Dagon fish hat because it doesnt look 100% exactly like a Dagon hat that is pure nitpicking. It is a Dagon fish hat regardless or whether or not it has eyes and fish scales on it

https://in5d.com/why-is-the-popes-mitre-shaped-like-a-fish/

 

 

Edited April 27, 2018 by TheMatrixHasU71

[TheMatrixHasU71]

Even the Rosary, I should have added, is pagan, originating thousands of years before Christ with Hinduism and Buddhism. Dont believe the Roman Catholic nonsense story that it originated with the Irish counting Psalms by dropping rocks into a pot.

Though there may be some truth to that story that is NOT how the rosary started