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4 minutes ago, warrior12 said:

Your entire post was well put and to the point. However, truth cannot be compromised.  At the end of the day, the truth of the gospel cannot be entangled with other false doctrines and compromised be reached for the sake of compassion and sympathy.  Paul admonish us to fight the good fight of faith .

Matthew 10:16 .   we are to be wise as serpent and gentle as doves.   Yes, we have to be civil, caring and the rest, but the gospel truth cannot be twisted to accommodate the lies of the enemy who is clever in his schemes to keep men captured into false doctrines and slavery.  

That conversation with your friend can be nostalgic and mutual on many fronts, but he has to know that purgatory for example is not a part of the gospel and which he may be placing his hope in.  He can be shown this, however in a gentle ways.  If, however you left there without letting him know that salvation is found only through the Lord Jesus Christ ,then it should prick your conscience that your witness was not complete.

I was waiting on a post like this coming from someone eventually, LoL. And I take no offense to it. But I doubt if I would come away with my conscience convicting me anymore than his will convict him. One of the first things I shared with him was that part of what eventually caused me to turn to God was EWTN (indirectly), and that's the truth. I used to play in heavy metal/ thrash bands until I was 21, and I quit the last band I was in and came back to live with my mother. She put me up in a room with nothing but a couch and a little TV that caught two channels, EWTN and some sports channel that played nothing but hockey 24/7. Eventually the Catholic channel started rubbing off on me enough to where I asked my mom if we had a Bible. None of my family were religious, but she did happen to have a Bible. As I began reading it, and after a while I thought to myself, "If people lived by this Book, the world would be a much better place." So I started attempting to, and eventually received the Lord Jesus Christ as my Savior through faith.

But along with sharing this with my friend, I also shared numerous things that indirectly shine light on how much of Catholicism is lacking in some areas (especially where manifesting spiritual gifts is concerned). At the same time, he pointed out how some Catholic leaders down through history have indeed walked in true supernatural gifts of God. So what ended up happening was I was planting seeds branching away from Catholicism while he was demonstrating that Catholicism has produced some great saints down through the centuries. 

I have met people from all different Christian denominations that I enjoyed fellowship with, because the Spirit within them was kindred with the One in me, regardless of the doctrinal differences. Likewise, I have met those who appeared to believe nearly all the same things I do, yet had a very critical and judgmental Spirit that was far from the One in me. So in the end, for me it boils down not to doctrine but to the Spirit that is within us. If we have that same Spirit, He will lead us into unity eventually. If, however, we do not, even the unity we may think we have will eventually be torn apart by strife.

I appreciate your reply and I understand your response. The conscience does indeed need to be obeyed. You are absolutely correct in that. I had another occasion a few months back where a dear sister of mine was steeped in sins and demonic oppression (very bad case, with very powerful and evil spirits), and the Spirit within me could no longer tolerate sitting idly by and saying nothing to her about some of the things she was doing. So I chastised her over it, not with words intended to condemn but to warn. She ended up rejecting me completely and telling me I had demons in me and that "God" would no longer allow her to communicate with me. It broke my heart, but I had to say what needed to be said.

So I do know when the Spirit convicts me about someone, and I will indeed chastise them if the Spirit of God leads me to, even if it means being rejected by people I love, and even being kicked off of Forums that I enjoy being a part of.

I just don't feel any such convictions in this particular case.  

God bless,

Hidden 

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While people can be too harsh, one really shouldn't be too soft, either. 

When you are too harsh, you not only scare off newcomers, but you make people more likely to not listen to your own point of view. When you are too soft, any particular view (no matter how bad or relevant) becomes acceptable, and so no opinion has any value and thus there are no opinions, no direction. It's a lose-lose situation either which way.

To quote Sun Tzu, a great leader leads by example, not by force. We must not strongarm other people into our own views, but we shouldn't just simply allow any or all views. It's a difficult and blurry line one has to walk. 

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19 minutes ago, pg4Him said:

Aaaaand there it goes. That goodwill lasted 7 replies.

It's not that bad, LoL. I know disagreements tend to dominate the various Christian Forums, and much of it can be in a spirit that is not of God. But it's important to remember that there should be a place, in a Spirit of Love, for good honest debate and discussion as well, so I welcome it so long as it's among those who have humble Spirit in them.

Trust me, I've seen some really nasty stuff posted on Christian Forums before (and even been a part of it a few times), so I can safely say that although there is the occasional tension here at Worthy as well, this is like a Sunday walk in the park compared to what I've seen elsewhere. Worthy is actually relatively well behaved in this department, which is a credit to this community. :thumbsup:

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This may sound mundane But we often go through periods of great sadness especially when we grieve for a lost loved one. It says in I Thess 4:13 You do not grieve like the rest of mankind who have no hope. None the less We hurt even wondering what is hope? What comes after that? We have eternal life but what is that? Have any thought of these things

But as it is written Eye half not seen nor ear hear, neither have entered in tho the hearts man the thing which God has prepared for then that love Him I Cor 2:9

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44 minutes ago, pg4Him said:

Aaaaand there it goes. That goodwill lasted 7 replies.

I see goodwill in all the posts in this threads, and am struggling now thinking for a Christlike reply. God's truth does need to be forefront. As I was caught up in the RCC for thirty years, till someone confronted me with the truth. Warrior did a good job reminding us, and was respectful to Hidden in his reply, and he in return let it be known there was no offense. Hidden was using his witnessing craft to get in the truth. I do this also to open the door for a discussion, and LATER share the light of the gospel.  Adults can have a good conversation, bring different points, even strong differences, with respect and consideration for each other. When there is no fuel, the fire goes out.              

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1 hour ago, enoob57 said:

Satan desires to make his place among us...

Ephesians 4:27 (KJV)

[27] Neither give place to the devil.

Our place is to give him no place....

I agree.

Which is why many claim to be Christians but do not hear the voice of Jesus calling.

We are sent to find the lost brothers and sisters, if we get no joy we move on for the sake of the others. Jesus didnt stay stationary nor did the apostles either.

 

 

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1 hour ago, pg4Him said:

Aaaaand there it goes. That goodwill lasted 7 replies.

Btw, PG4, my apologies if posting a "funny" to your post offended you any. For many it's not a laughing matter, especially if someone really goes after you about something. It can disturb your peace, and even effect your walk with Christ if the situation is bad enough. Just understand that the Lord will intervene and set you on higher ground if you just ask Him to, so that you are again among those who care for you and rescued from continued contact with those who do not.

God bless you, sister.

Hidden 

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(1 John 4:1). According to the New Testament, discernment is not optional for the believer-it is required.

The key to living an uncompromising life lies in one's ability to exercise discernment in every area of his or her life. For example, failure to distinguish between truth and error leaves the Christian subject to all manner of false teaching. False teaching then leads to an unbiblical mindset, which results in unfruitful and disobedient living-a certain recipe for compromise

It is important to biblically discern right from wrong teaching. We should never let it slide. This should come from those who are mature in wisdom and not babes.

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6 hours ago, Hidden In Him said:

It's not that bad, LoL. I know disagreements tend to dominate the various Christian Forums, and much of it can be in a spirit that is not of God. But it's important to remember that there should be a place, in a Spirit of Love, for good honest debate and discussion as well, so I welcome it so long as it's among those who have humble Spirit in them.

Trust me, I've seen some really nasty stuff posted on Christian Forums before (and even been a part of it a few times), so I can safely say that although there is the occasional tension here at Worthy as well, this is like a Sunday walk in the park compared to what I've seen elsewhere. Worthy is actually relatively well behaved in this department, which is a credit to this community. :thumbsup:

Yes, this is a good community compared to some other forums....some other ones may have such unpleasantness  that one doesn't care to go back to them.

Ephesians 4:15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into Him in all things, which is the head, even Christ.

Ephesians 4:32 And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake has forgiven you.

 

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5 minutes ago, Debp said:

Yes, this is a good community compared to some other forums....some other ones may have such unpleasantness  that one doesn't care to go back to them.

Ephesians 4:15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into Him in all things, which is the head, even Christ.

Ephesians 4:32 And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake has forgiven you.

Wonderful verses, sister. I was actually just on another Forum viewing a very divisive and contentious thread, and reading these verses couldn't be more like breath of fresh air. :)

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