Suicide

[Guest Bro David™]

For fluffy:

I am happy your a freind and that you did nOT give up mate

[Scarletprayers]

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[hmh]

For someone to contemplate and actually commit suicide is a serious matter. Scumbag satan really did a number on that person to convince him/her to do such a thing. Depression is devastating to the suffer and those around them. To think that the only way out of a situation is to kill yourself is really devastating. To combat that kind of situation requires that the sufferer and/or someone close to recognize what is occurring. Someone like that needs Christian counseling fast.

[peaches]

i used to think right off that suicide condemns u straight to hell. maybe it does cos even if u don't realise it, u are denying God...reminds me of getting the number of the beast....u don't wanna get it but they are coersing u into getting it by killing people u love.....now my reasoning used to be that God knows our pain and He knows our hearts so there is no way of condeming us to hell if we kill ourselves cos when one comes to the point of suicide...their heart must REALLY REALLY be broken.

[Dad Ernie]

To take your own for selfish reasons is a lack of faith and I can't believe that a person can go to heaven for that. They just weren't true believers in the first place.

Greetings UVN,

I was once put on medication for hypertension. One of the side effects was that it "could" produce thoughts of suicide. This occurred to me after taking the drug for about a month. I knew these thoughts were not normal and I called the doctor who immediately took me off them and prescribed other drugs.

Since then I have learned that a "chemical imbalance" in the system can generate suicidal thoughts or tendencies.

But I want you to give consideration to the following verse:

1 Corinthians 5:5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

No doubt Satan wants us dead, dead, dead and he is behind the thoughts of those who commit suicide (destruction of the flesh). So with that in mind, who are we to determine if a person WILL or WILL NOT be saved?

Blessings,

Dad Ernie

[uvn477]

Dad Ernie,

I think you misunderstand what I am saying. It sounds to me like you believe I'm judging people. Jesus will be the only judge as to whether a person goes to hell or heaven but I am only expressing what I believe will happen to a person who commits suicide.

You mention that you were in a state of depression yourself and I'm sorry to hear that. However, you also mention that your thoughts were spurred on by medication. People like myself do not need medication to think suicidal thoughts. I wanted to kill myself because I wanted to give up. I didn't think life was worth living. I believed in God but didn't trust Him to take care of me. I think everyone can agree that if I were a true chirstian at the time I would've trusted Him.

And yes Satan wants us dead. However, he also wants to condemn our souls. He doesn't want us to be saved and that is what led Judas to kill himself. Judas could've repented for his sins and entered the kingdom of God. Instead he chose to take his own life because he gave up and did not trust in God. So ask yourself, was Judas ever a true believer? Then look at the cases of suicide and the spirituality of the people that go through with it. The parallel is there.

Edited May 10, 2005 by uvn477

[nebula]

But I was a Christian when I was going through my suicide struggles.

The only reason I didn't was because I knew it would break the LORD's heart if I did - and I didn't want to do that.

I didn't see myself going to Hell because I died in sin.

Rather what I saw was meeting Jesus, and Him saying sorrowfully to me, "Why did you do that?"

I didn't want to meet the LORD that way.