Beware of the Catholic Church!

[rrobs]

48 minutes ago, Fidei Defensor said:

How are the Boy Scots and other depraved incidents outside the Church part of Babelyon? The Roman Catholic Church is not the source of this deplorable behavior, the sinful appetites of people are. This isn’t isolated to churches, it is in Hollywood, Boy Scots, work places, and in cultures that srnt Christian. 

It is convient to make a scapegoat out of one institution or people. When the problem is global and across Secular and Ecclesiastical lines. 

Very well said. There are many other institutions besides the RCC that are causing problems. Having said that, there is a fundamental question. Does the RCC set the morality for the Boy Scouts to follow, or does the Boy Scouts determine the morality of the RCC? I think in general the RCC is far and away more influential in defining the values and mores of Western culture than any other factor.

The RCC doctrine has permeated the fabric of society such that there is not an institution  or individual who is immune from it's influence. Whether or not someone likes Trump is one thing, but the fact is Trump is the way he is largely because of his upbringing, which upbringing was colored by RCC doctrine. It simply can't be avoided. It is in the very air we breath. Some react negatively and other positively, but either way, the actual scriptures most definitely take a back seat to the RCC doctrine. We are the way we are as a country largely because of that.

It's not uncommon to hear someone say Christianity has caused untold problems in this world. The question becomes is it really Biblical Christianity or some other factor? Suffice it to say, if society actually followed scripture it would be a vastly different society. It would be much better. For starters the hate that is becoming more endemic in the world would vanish. The Bible never says to hate someone, so if their is hate it comes from some other source.

Edited August 18, 2018 by rrobs

[frienduff thaylorde]

6 hours ago, Heleadethme said:

No-one is calling "people" the Harlot and Babylon.  It's the RCC organization and belief system that is being looked at.  And we need to realize that it's probably a good thing if most Catholics don't feel comfortable here...and I'll try to explain why.  This is a Christian forum, and as such we discuss everything that is in the word of God, unapologetically, without hiding anything under a bushel or avoiding uncomfortable subjects.  In this way the forum is being salt and light, and we find that atheists, Buddhists, Satan worshipers and others aren't comfortable here either.  And that's as it should be.....if the whole world and every evil spirit felt comfortable here then they would all flood in and it would mean the salt and light of the word of God is not being held up at it should.  The only ones who would hang around are a few from any group who are sincerely seeking the truth, and praise the Lord for that.  If our gospel is such that we believe everyone should be comfortable with it, then perhaps its time to examine ourselves and make sure we haven't tainted and compromised it with a humanistic mindset.

There are a number of Catholics who also believe the RCC church is Mystery Babylon and that the last Pope will be the Antichrist.  I can only assume they remain Catholics because they are still captive to a lot of her dogmas and confused about what their course of action should be, in spite of having that understanding.  God's word instructs to come out of her....so that they will not partake of her sins and receive of her judgments.

And now a reminder .    DID JESUS tone down his stance so folks would feel comfy .     HIS TRUTH was direct and always right to the POINT .  JESUS did not pander his message  to suit the hearer ,  HE SIMPLY SPOKE TRUTH and often said ,   ONLY MY SHEEP will hear .   POINTS are POINTS .   IN the end ,  the elect will hear and the rest will not .

We Do NOT , must not , shall not , and will NOT tone down a message to have folks feel comfy .    IT aint right .   One would think folks would have learned the lesson of

the SEEKER FRIENDLY , they toned down everything ,  and now look at those churches , swelling with sin and in total darkness .    Compromise to win souls , DONT WIN SOULS

it destroyes churches .

[rrobs]

21 hours ago, Fidei Defensor said:

Sadly, Protestant Churches arnt exempt. Many leaders of mega churches and Protestant Churches are stepping down for sexual misconduct and etc. The infection is not isolated to the RCC, it has spread into the Reformed and Evangelical sectors, Into Boy Scots, Into Hollywood, Into coaches of sports and beyond. This is not an RCC problem, it is pandemic that is spreading the globe; even sects of Hindus, Mexkcans, and Muslims are known to do this deplorable behavior to their children. 

This is a sin problem that is stretching like Aids across the globe and if we do not pray and correct/address it in our churches it will grow and we will return to the time of the Emperors of Rome and Herod Antipas whose depravity has no bounds. 

Oh Lord Jesus, come quickly! (Revelation 22:20). 

The National Council of Churches have all but erased the dividing line between Catholics and Protestants. God bless Martin Luther, but unfortunately his movement was little more than a flash in the pan. It didn't take long for the Protestants to begin compromising on their beliefs in the scriptures.

Here we are talking about Catholics and Protestants as though they are the root of the problem. But that is not really at all true. Our fight is not against people. Our warfare is spiritual and the enemy is the devil. Remember where Paul came from and where he ended up? I doubt if there is a Catholic or Protestant alive today that is any worse than Paul was on the road to Damascus. He turned out OK!

Edited August 18, 2018 by rrobs

[frienduff thaylorde]

47 minutes ago, Fidei Defensor said:

How are the Boy Scots and other depraved incidents outside the Church part of Babelyon? The Roman Catholic Church is not the source of this deplorable behavior, the sinful appetites of people are. This isn’t isolated to churches, it is in Hollywood, Boy Scots, work places, and in cultures that srnt Christian. 

It is convient to make a scapegoat out of one institution or people. When the problem is global and across Secular and Ecclesiastical lines. 

ITS everywhere .     And we have been CALLED OUT of any such system that pratices darkness .  ROME is ONE OF THOSE SYSTEMS .    NOW ,  COME YE OUT OF HER

one and all,   COME OUT OF ALL harlot churches who walk in darkness, teach darkness and they themselves have are not entering into the KINGDOM

and ARE STOPPING all who enter them, FROM ENTERING the KINGDOM .  IN the end , we stand before GOD.,  not me , not you , not the pope , not the others ,  WE stand before GOD .

AND I surely remember GOD saying to a church ,    I have this against you , YOU ALLOW ,  as in ALLOW , as in wont warn against ,   that false prophetess who teaches and seduces

my people .   PARD ,  we gonna warn out against ROME ,  cause We will stand BEFORE GOD at our end .  

[frienduff thaylorde]

4 minutes ago, rrobs said:

The National Council of Churches have all but erased the dividing line between Catholics and Protestants. God bless Martin Luther, but unfortunately his movement was little more than a flash in the pan. It didn't take long for the Protestants to begin compromising on their beliefs in the scriptures.

Here we are talking about Catholics and Protestants as though they are the root of the problem. But that is not really a tall true. Our fight is not against people. Our warfare is spiritual and the enemy is the devil. Remember where Paul came from and where he ended up? I doubt if there is a Catholic or Protestant alive today that is any worse than Paul was on the road to Damascus. He turned out OK!

WITH one major difference .     AND ITS A BIG ONE .     HUGE .     why did paul obtain mercy .      BECAUSE HE HAD DONE IT IN IGNORANCE ,  before BELEIVING IN JESUS .

THESE systems , DO IT and yet DO IT IN HIS NAME .    BIG DIFFERENCE , VERY DANGEROUS place to be .  VERY dangerous .   

[frienduff thaylorde]

I bet if we restudy the four gosples , YOU WILL See WHO was the main enemy OF JESUS , and WHO JESUS constantly more than any other warned AGAINST .

THE RENOWN RELIGOUS LEADERS .      YEAH ,     let that one sink in a bit .

And yall want to hear something that this all inclusive dung pile says nothing about .     These high renown religious leaders IN JESUS TIME

FULLY BELIEVED THEY FOLLOWED GOD .    YET JESUS said YOU of your father THE DEVIL .    let that sink in too .

 

[frienduff thaylorde]

And one other thing , VERY PERTINENT TO TODAY .   BOTH JESUS and the apostels would warn about it too.

Don't be deceived ,  MANY , MANY will come in my name , many false prophets will arise .      TAKE A LOOK AROUND ,  they all over the christain religion . ALL OVER IT .

and now their goal is WORLD PEACE all inclusive UNITY .     LEADING all right to the beast who is to rise . 

[rrobs]

Just now, frienduff thaylorde said:

WITH one major difference .     AND ITS A BIG ONE .     HUGE .     why did paul obtain mercy .      BECAUSE HE HAD DONE IT IN IGNORANCE ,  before BELEIVING IN JESUS .

THESE systems , DO IT and yet DO IT IN HIS NAME .    BIG DIFFERENCE , VERY DANGEROUS place to be .  VERY dangerous .   

You bring up an excellent point. Paul did in fact do it out of ignorance. The reason he was ignorant was because of the things he was taught in the school of Gamaliel. He simply believed what he was taught and even God understood that Paul was only acting on what he had been taught. I don't think there is a RCC priest who, like Paul, is not doing anything other than what he was taught.

Like so many problems in society, the cause is institutional, not the individual members of that institution. We can speak the word to people and the institution will change on it's own accord as the people begin to see truth.

[Neighbor]

3 minutes ago, frienduff thaylorde said:

And yall want to hear something that this all inclusive dung pile says nothing about.

 Don't be so hard on yourself.    

[frienduff thaylorde]

5 minutes ago, rrobs said:

You bring up an excellent point. Paul did in fact do it out of ignorance. The reason he was ignorant was because of the things he was taught in the school of Gamaliel. He simply believed what he was taught and even God understood that Paul was only acting on what he had been taught. I don't think there is a RCC priest who, like Paul, is not doing anything other than what he was taught.

Like so many problems in society, the cause is institutional, not the individual members of that institution. We can speak the word to people and the institution will change on it's own accord as the people begin to see truth.

The cause for any one being deceived is on the fault of the person .    Sure the instutition is at fault as well.

BUT  when real grace appears ,   IT LEADS US OUT of such places ,  IT puts LOVE of the TRUTH on our hearts .

their are no victims to sin ,  just slaves to sin .    But the SON OF MAN , HE sets folks FREE .  

As with the false prophet , institution , system , so with the people who love to sit and hear what they say .  

BUT GOD ,   CHRIST calls HIS SHEEP and they will hear him .   And they will follow HIM .  They will flee the voice of strangers ,  THEY WILL FOLLOW ONLY THE LAMB . 

COME YE OUT OF HER my people , lest ye be partakers of her sins ,  and her plagues .