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Its the 2nd Beast who will rule the world by executing all the power from the 1st Beast (antichrist) :

Rev 13:12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, ...

13 And he doeth great wonders ..... (its the 2nd Beast who will amaze the world with great wonders, not the 1st Beast)

......so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men.

The 2nd Beast will imitate Elijah whom the Jews believe will come in the end times with the Messiah (1st Beast) and he will cause the fire to come down probably to burn the sacrificed offerings at the 3rd Temple, just like Elijah did. But this 2nd Beast may actually be the end times figure expected by the Arab world.

Here are the facts :

Sanhedrin rabbi agrees that the Arab world worship the same God :

 

A Jewish Rabbi says Arab religion is the future of  the world

 

Repreentative of Jewish Sanhedrin didnt deny that the Messiah may be the same with the Arab figure of end times :

 

Some people say that the Arab religion will rule the world in the end times as it has been prepared from its beginning to take over

  https://www.breakingisraelnews.com/106400/did-the-quran-come-to-replace-the-torah/

The Jews believe that Messiah and Elijah will be sent in the end times situation to rule the world from Jerusalem, obviously their wrong opinion  has been explained in Revelation 13, they are not the real Messiah and not the real Elijah. But the 2nd Beast may be the figure expected by the Arab world who will rule the world in the end times situation as it has been prepared from the start.

So the fake Messiah will come from Judaism/Christianity

The false prophet/fake Elijah will come from Arab religion and the fake Messiah will empower him to rule and make great wonders and execute the resistants by beheading (Arab typical style), and according to their prophecy he will rule the world for seven years.

God's covenant is made through Abraham-Ishac-Jacob while the 2nd beast of Revelation 13 may come from Ishmaelites.

Rev 13:11 .....and he spake as a dragon.

The world will tremble when he appears and speaks like a dragon.

This is just a guess based on the above sources.

 

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5 hours ago, Da Puppers said:

 Most people seem to overlook that there are 2 "antichrist" figures in the last days, the beast and the false prophet.  

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One comes up out of the abyss or sea.  The other comes up out of the earth.


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Yes the 1st Beast is the antichrist which the Jews assume as the "Messiah" but the 2nd Beast who will execute his power will be the prophet expected by the Arab world.


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11 hours ago, Last Daze said:

One comes up out of the abyss or sea.  The other comes up out of the earth.

Where ever they may come from the antichrist will cooperate with that "Elijah" who is actually the end times figure expected by the Arab world. Cant we see what is happening in Syria ? Its been promoted to all over the world.

 

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4 hours ago, R. Hartono said:

Where ever they may come from the antichrist will cooperate with that "Elijah" who is actually the end times figure expected by the Arab world. Cant we see what is happening in Syria ? Its been promoted to all over the world.

 

The abyss is only ever used in the context of evil spirit beings.  The one who comes up out of the abyss is an evil spirit being.  The one that comes up out of the earth is a human.


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This illustrates an interesting trend among the worlds religions. They are all being groomed to accept a new universal messiah. This mindset manifested itself in the US during the mid 1980's with the commercialization of the New Age movement. It appears to be global in nature with teaching that is tailored to appeal to each cultural region. The Antichrist has been working behind the scenes for the past 25 years corrupting the political and religious leadership on a global level without public scrutiny. see: Maiterya .org. (Jesus Christ will always be our Only One.)


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9 minutes ago, Scott Free said:

The Antichrist has been working behind the scenes for the past 25 years corrupting the political and religious leadership on a global level without public scrutiny.

My guess is more like 100 years; the evil spirit beast that is, not the man of sin.


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Yes, you are right. The reality is that all we know is half truth. To accurately express this is as a spiritual whole is beyond the understanding of us common men. Like a mason once said, "We are only seeing one face of the pyramid." To Jesus goes all the glory.

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