turtletwo Posted March 14, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 35 Topic Count: 1,192 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 7,264 Content Per Day: 1.19 Reputation: 15,710 Days Won: 194 Joined: 07/15/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted March 14, 2019 What should the Christian's stance on this be? What should we do if a loved one is contemplating it? How does the Lord look upon it? There are obviously no direct scriptures about it so this is a case of using our common sense mixed with scriptural perspective. I have my own belief about it but am interested to hear my brothers and sisters comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted March 14, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.81 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted March 14, 2019 30 minutes ago, turtletwo said: What should the Christian's stance on this be? What should we do if a loved one is contemplating it? How does the Lord look upon it? There are obviously no direct scriptures about it so this is a case of using our common sense mixed with scriptural perspective. I have my own belief about it but am interested to hear my brothers and sisters comments. First of all the Christian must take it to God. Then ask yourself...why am I doing it? Is it for vanity? Is it for a medical reason? There can be complications as well. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willa Posted March 14, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 68 Topic Count: 186 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 14,242 Content Per Day: 3.33 Reputation: 16,653 Days Won: 30 Joined: 08/14/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted March 14, 2019 Many people have been burned badly, have cleft pallets or other birth defects, and are in bad need of plastic surgery. It would be very hard to find shoes to fit a person with several extra toes. Some are dissatisfied with their appearance and do it for vanity. It is certainly not worth the risks of having a face lift or a nose job for sake of vanity. Once in a while their appearance is so askew that people stare at them; perhaps it would be merciful to have limited plastic surgery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tzephanyahu Posted March 14, 2019 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 69 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1,625 Content Per Day: 0.79 Reputation: 2,033 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/10/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted March 14, 2019 9 hours ago, turtletwo said: What should the Christian's stance on this be? Shalom turtle, Interesting question. I have a fairly immovable opinion on this matter: No, it shouldn't be done. The very fact of trying to "improve" on God's creation with man's butchering skills is not right. After all, we are all made in the image of God - who are we to say "yes, yes, but I want this part smaller and that part bigger". As for those who have been in accidents and have surgery to get some sense of normalcy - this is a different matter and each case has it's own reasons. But for the sake of vanity or "little improvements"? No, it shouldn't be done. Yes, it's not ruled out specifically in Scripture but then again, do we really need to be told absolutely everything in detail? Consider it this way - You see me pluck a pretty rose. Yes, it's not a perfect specimen - it's lost a petal here and there - but still it's beautiful and unique. I take it back home to my lab and paint over it with a vibrant red. I add some plastic petals among the real ones and use wires to spread the petals out all evenly. From there, I remove some real petals to have the rose look even and paint in some darker shadows to make the red pop more. Finally I add it to collection of other roses which have all undergone the same treatment and is quickly lost among them. Isn't that Rose now tainted? Hasn't it lost the innocence of its beauty? Wasn't its imperfections natural and what made it unique? I know that might seemed like a closed minded opinion but, at the end of the day, such a surgery takes place to either please yourself, please potential partners, or please potential employers - but never to please God. Rather, it's defacing His work in a poor attempt to become like someone else or appear "without blemish". Hah, when I read this back through it sounds like I'm really angry about it! I'm really not, but I just think it's a real shame when it happens for vanity sake. Love & Shalom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neighbor Posted March 14, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 952 Topics Per Day: 0.35 Content Count: 13,568 Content Per Day: 5.03 Reputation: 9,047 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/04/2016 Status: Online Birthday: 03/03/1885 Share Posted March 14, 2019 10 hours ago, turtletwo said: What should the Christian's stance on this be? What should we do if a loved one is contemplating it? How does the Lord look upon it? There are obviously no direct scriptures about it so this is a case of using our common sense mixed with scriptural perspective. I have my own belief about it but am interested to hear my brothers and sisters comments. Doesn't matter a wit, a jot, nor a title. It's a non issue, don't make it one. No stance is needed, nothing is to be done about it. What has the Lord to do with it? It's all going to burn away anyway. I'd love to have personal body augmentation, but hey at 75 who, even me, would care about the end result? Ha! I'm still considering having the "holy dingle dongle", the cool grafted in symbol that I am now using as an avatar tattooed on me; but ya know most of me is sagging or losing the vibrant viral look anyway. The whole tattoo would be kinda crinkly. Hey if a tuck or reconstruct helps one get past focusing on something besides a body issue, that's great! Go , get all perfected up and then see one still has need of God in all of life anyway, and get down to facing Jesus is Lord God and personal savior. Now if I could just have more hair on my head for my God to have to count, that would be really nice. Oh well, the body it never was what I remember it as having been anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neighbor Posted March 14, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 952 Topics Per Day: 0.35 Content Count: 13,568 Content Per Day: 5.03 Reputation: 9,047 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/04/2016 Status: Online Birthday: 03/03/1885 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Ha, I just got to thinking about "improving on what God has made" as an issue and remembered the quilting of a particular American cultish group of believers in God deliberately putting errors into their work, because only God is perfect. Wow they thought so hard they thought they had to create imperfection - Must have thought their work to otherwise be perfect eh? Seems quaint at first thought, then extremely arrogant upon second thinking on it. To think -I do work so good as to be perfect unless I deliberately make a flaw in it so as to show that only God is perfect. Ha as though life's fault finders, those delightful many, could not otherwise find an errant stitch, color, shape, or pattern. Maybe a tattoo where it doesn't always show. Maybe I well maybe I could - The grafted in symbol in gold color, real gold, I have thought about it and shared of it before. But nah, too old to be bold anymore. Wonder though would gold fade like so many nasty blurry tattoos seem to do? Maybe with a tummy tuck, heck a crane lift worth of lift and then, well no forget it. I did see a tattoo with a body in it yesterday, a nice lady of the lawyer's office staff, must have invested every other paycheck for years to get so decored up. She was kind of like a five and a half foot tall living decorative vase and flowers. Bet she could disappear in heavily wallpapered rooms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted March 14, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 597 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,106 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,840 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted March 14, 2019 6 minutes ago, Neighbor said: Ha, I just got to thinking about "improving on what God has made" as an issue and remembered the quilting of a particular American cultish group of believers in God deliberately putting errors into their work, because only God is perfect. Maybe they just want to make it the way it used to be. Not make it better than God did, but just to restore it to what it was... LoL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neighbor Posted March 14, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 952 Topics Per Day: 0.35 Content Count: 13,568 Content Per Day: 5.03 Reputation: 9,047 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/04/2016 Status: Online Birthday: 03/03/1885 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Could be. How does one force humility? Self defeating effort I would think. Humble is as humble does? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neighbor Posted March 14, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 952 Topics Per Day: 0.35 Content Count: 13,568 Content Per Day: 5.03 Reputation: 9,047 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/04/2016 Status: Online Birthday: 03/03/1885 Share Posted March 14, 2019 I once thought I might be humble; but a corrector of persons told me that no I was just socially unconscious. I thanked them and saluted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neighbor Posted March 14, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 952 Topics Per Day: 0.35 Content Count: 13,568 Content Per Day: 5.03 Reputation: 9,047 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/04/2016 Status: Online Birthday: 03/03/1885 Share Posted March 14, 2019 11 hours ago, maryjayne said: Do you mean purely for vanity? some plastic surgery is for restoring damaged faces, or bodies, isnt it. There is example of a most intracate and beautiful piece of art, a detailed full top body tattoo of a garment on a woman whose breasts were removed due to cancer. The terribly hard to endure scars are covered over, the full top "outfit" beautiful, and the woman a testimony of survival and spirit. Praise God for the surgeon that saved her and for the artist that "painted " her. She is encouragement thanks to God for encouragement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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