R. Hartono Posted September 28, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 775 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,953 Content Per Day: 3.05 Reputation: 1,985 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted September 28, 2020 8 hours ago, iamlamad said: What difference will it make where he comes from? It is what he does (or will do) when he arrives in Jerusalem that is written. I personally don't think he is in any way associated with the Vatican. I rather think he will be a Muslim. Israel is not surrounded by Catholics; they are surrounded by Muslims. Imho the 1st beast is called shepherd and shall be well versed in Bible but the 2nd beast will bring Arab religion and antichrist will empower the 2nd beast to rule the world. Zechariah 11:16 For, lo, I will raise up a shepherd in the land (Israel), which shall not visit those that be cut off, neither shall seek the young one, nor heal that that is broken, nor feed that that standeth still: but he shall eat the flesh of the fat, and tear their claws in pieces. https://www.worthychristianforums.com/topic/229459-antichrist-will-appear-from-the-church/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Hartono Posted September 28, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 775 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,953 Content Per Day: 3.05 Reputation: 1,985 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted September 28, 2020 3 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said: OK, where is catholics in Revelation. I wont call this a Revelation but St Maleachy has prophesied that Pope Francis is the last pope who will lead his flock in many tribulation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted September 28, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.45 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted September 28, 2020 5 hours ago, R. Hartono said: I wont call this a Revelation but St Maleachy has prophesied that Pope Francis is the last pope who will lead his flock in many tribulation. He could very well be the last pope but I'd say he's far from converting all of Islam to become catholic. I just don't think he can do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamlamad Posted September 28, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 8,272 Content Per Day: 2.07 Reputation: 689 Days Won: 4 Joined: 06/09/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted September 28, 2020 8 hours ago, R. Hartono said: Imho the 1st beast is called shepherd and shall be well versed in Bible but the 2nd beast will bring Arab religion and antichrist will empower the 2nd beast to rule the world. Zechariah 11:16 For, lo, I will raise up a shepherd in the land (Israel), which shall not visit those that be cut off, neither shall seek the young one, nor heal that that is broken, nor feed that that standeth still: but he shall eat the flesh of the fat, and tear their claws in pieces. https://www.worthychristianforums.com/topic/229459-antichrist-will-appear-from-the-church/ the only difficulty I see is trying to prove this verse is really pointing to the Beast. The Commentaries were of no help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Hartono Posted September 28, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 775 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,953 Content Per Day: 3.05 Reputation: 1,985 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted September 28, 2020 2 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said: He could very well be the last pope but I'd say he's far from converting all of Islam to become catholic. I just don't think he can do it. On the contrary he will do the opposite with the help of 2nd beast of Arab religion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted September 29, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.45 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted September 29, 2020 21 hours ago, R. Hartono said: On the contrary he will do the opposite with the help of 2nd beast of Arab religion. No Arab can make fire come down from heaven buddy. If you want to see who can do that, you need to look alittle closer to home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Hartono Posted September 29, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 775 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,953 Content Per Day: 3.05 Reputation: 1,985 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted September 29, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said: No Arab can make fire come down from heaven buddy. If you want to see who can do that, you need to look alittle closer to home. Any Arab can call fire with the power from the devil. Edited September 29, 2020 by R. Hartono Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted September 30, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.45 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted September 30, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, R. Hartono said: Any Arab can call fire with the power from the devil. How many people have you seen make fire come down from heaven by power given to them from the devil? Do you believe the devil is in heaven and therefore can make fire go down from there like God has in the past? Edited September 30, 2020 by Shilohsfoal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Hartono Posted September 30, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 775 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,953 Content Per Day: 3.05 Reputation: 1,985 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted September 30, 2020 Just now, Shilohsfoal said: How many people have you seen make fire come down from heaven by power given to them from the devil? It will be as Rev 13 has told us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted September 30, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.45 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted September 30, 2020 10 hours ago, R. Hartono said: It will be as Rev 13 has told us. Rev 13 doesn't say Satan gives power to the second beast with two horns like a lamb. Arabs can't do it like we can. Sadam learned the hard way that the people who control the heavens can control the ground. You just blow up the things on the earth that you need to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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