Are these the twelve last shepherds in Israel ?

[Shilohsfoal]

5 hours ago, iamlamad said:

And all this time I have believed that "the little Horn" was none other than the Beast of Rev. 13. 

The little horn shares the same kingdom with the 10 other horns. 

The kingdom is the promised land and they all will be destroyed and that kingdom shall be given to the seed of Abraham. It will be given to who it was promised(forever) Surely you can't believe it was promised to Benjamin Netanyahu. 

 

https://biblehub.com/daniel/7-27.htm

Edited September 16, 2020 by Shilohsfoal

[iamlamad]

33 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

The little horn shares the same kingdom with the 10 other horns. 

The kingdom is the promised land and they all will be destroyed and that kingdom shall be given to the seed of Abraham. It will be given to who it was promised(forever) Surely you can't believe it was promised to Benjamin Netanyahu. 

https://biblehub.com/daniel/7-27.htm

On the other hand, the Little Horn takes out three of ten kings (an kingdoms) leaving 7, and becomes the 8th king. He is none other than the man of sin turned Beast. He and the False Prophet will deceive the world - from the city of Jerusalem.

[iamlamad]

1 hour ago, Shilohsfoal said:

https://biblehub.com/revelation/17-11.htm

Thanks! I just ran across that myself. He IS called a king. Therefore I believe Dan. 11:36 is about a man in our future, not in our past.

[Shilohsfoal]

9 minutes ago, iamlamad said:

On the other hand, the Little Horn takes out three of ten kings (an kingdoms) leaving 7, and becomes the 8th king. He is none other than the man of sin turned Beast. He and the False Prophet will deceive the world - from the city of Jerusalem.

The little horn didn't take out the three. It subdued them. It was a sound defeat. 

Israel defeated Syria, Jordan and Egypt in only 6 days and took control of Jerusalem. It will continue to rule from Jerusalem till the ten horns attacks Jerusalem at the time of the end. Three days after they take Jerusalem the Lord comes and stands on the Mt of olives. The resurrection takes place and the beast is cast into the lake of fire. 

[iamlamad]

46 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

The little horn didn't take out the three. It subdued them. It was a sound defeat. 

Israel defeated Syria, Jordan and Egypt in only 6 days and took control of Jerusalem. It will continue to rule from Jerusalem till the ten horns attacks Jerusalem at the time of the end. Three days after they take Jerusalem the Lord comes and stands on the Mt of olives. The resurrection takes place and the beast is cast into the lake of fire. 

By "take out" I meant DEFEAT as in war. Why else would the masses be saying "who is able to make war with him?"
"sound defeat" is good. 

I can't imagine where you get three days. 

[Shilohsfoal]

1 minute ago, iamlamad said:

By "take out" I meant DEFEAT as in war. Why else would the masses be saying "who is able to make war with him?"
"sound defeat" is good. 

I can't imagine where you get three days. 

The three days is from revelation. 

It is the time it takes from the time Jerusalems defenders are killed by the beast to the time Christ resurrects them. 

When Christ comes the resurrection takes place. The trumpet shall sound and the dead in Christ rise. 

[R. Hartono]

8 hours ago, iamlamad said:

On the other hand, I can't think of any other scripture where the Beast of Rev. 13 was called a King. 

 

4 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

https://biblehub.com/revelation/17-11.htm

Imho antichrist is the 8th king in succession at his kingdom, not the king of the north. And he is attached with peaceful attributes but actually these kings carry the whore of Babylon (fake religion of christianity) n sits on many waters (nation).

The king of the North did not sit on many waters n did not carry the whore which imitate Christianity.

We need to identify it n look, Vatican has 1,3 billions followers in many nations n has drunk the blood of saints with inquisition.

Imho In the great tribulation the 1st beast will empower the 2nd beast of Arab religion to take over Christianity n to worship him as God.

Edited September 17, 2020 by R. Hartono

[iamlamad]

3 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

The three days is from revelation. 

It is the time it takes from the time Jerusalems defenders are killed by the beast to the time Christ resurrects them. 

When Christ comes the resurrection takes place. The trumpet shall sound and the dead in Christ rise. 

Are you talking about the 3 1/2 days the Two Witnesses lay dead?

Sorry, you are mixing up comings. The resurrection of the dead in Christ happens at His coming BEFORE the week, as shown by 1 Thes. 4.

The two witnesses are resurrected at the 7th vial that ends the week -  and Jesus does NOT COME then. He will come some unknown time AFTER the week has ended.

[Shilohsfoal]

8 hours ago, iamlamad said:

Are you talking about the 3 1/2 days the Two Witnesses lay dead?

Sorry, you are mixing up comings. The resurrection of the dead in Christ happens at His coming BEFORE the week, as shown by 1 Thes. 4.

The two witnesses are resurrected at the 7th vial that ends the week -  and Jesus does NOT COME then. He will come some unknown time AFTER the week has ended.

The resurrection takes place when Christ comes. 

https://biblehub.com/matthew/24-31.htm

Edited September 17, 2020 by Shilohsfoal

[iamlamad]

2 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

The resurrection takes place when Christ comes. 

https://biblehub.com/matthew/24-31.htm

Sorry, wrong coming. There are no resurrections at the gathering of the elect in Mat. 24. 

But at His pretrib coming, 1 Thes. 4, THERE you will find the dead in Christ resurrected. 
Perhaps you should study 1 thes. 5 and learn Paul's timing for the rapture.