creativemechanic Posted May 15, 2019 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 414 Topics Per Day: 0.12 Content Count: 1,273 Content Per Day: 0.36 Reputation: 518 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/22/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted May 15, 2019 i had an epiphany- tell me i you think this makes sense biblically. If God has something in mind for someone, he will give them a desire for it or make them aware of it. So while God may use us (by suggesting or pointing out) to open someones eyes to something it is not for us to try and pry them open by insisting or pressuring if they dont agree or take. So as much we think someone should do something or make a particular choice, if its the one God has or them, they will naturally gravitate to it or get a desire for it. Often we just want them to do what WE think they should and get critical i they dont 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neighbor Posted May 15, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 952 Topics Per Day: 0.35 Content Count: 13,568 Content Per Day: 5.03 Reputation: 9,047 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/04/2016 Status: Online Birthday: 03/03/1885 Share Posted May 15, 2019 May I suggest the example of God's unwilling servant Jonah? What do you think, is the record of Jonah an example of how God gives desire or makes one aware? Does God not insist on His way or else, regardless of one's desire? The difference, in my opinion, is while I may desire someone to do something that I think is God's will for them, I am not God. I am a bond-servant of Jesus, and I do not have direction from God to command the servant of another, but only my own servants, of which there aren't presently any at all. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who me Posted May 15, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 17 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,299 Content Per Day: 1.72 Reputation: 1,685 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/27/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted May 15, 2019 24 minutes ago, creativemechanic said: If God has something in mind for someone, he will give them a desire for it or make them aware of it. So while God may use us (by suggesting or pointing out) to open someones eyes to something it is not for us to try and pry them open by insisting or pressuring if they dont agree or take. So as much we think someone should do something or make a particular choice, if its the one God has or them, they will naturally gravitate to it or get a desire for it. Often we just want them to do what WE think they should and get critical i they dont How God saves people are as different as people are different. There is only one consistent element and that is, it is God who draws people to him to be saved, through the working of the Spirit. No one just decides to become a Christian. 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeyondET Posted May 15, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 2,868 Content Per Day: 1.23 Reputation: 816 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/29/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/01/1968 Share Posted May 15, 2019 33 minutes ago, creativemechanic said: tell me i you think this makes sense biblically. It appears so, in my opinion, the whole chapter has a lot to say. Ecclesiastes 3 1 To everything there is a season, and a time for every purpose under heaven: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted May 15, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.81 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted May 15, 2019 2 hours ago, creativemechanic said: i had an epiphany- tell me i you think this makes sense biblically. If God has something in mind for someone, he will give them a desire for it or make them aware of it. So while God may use us (by suggesting or pointing out) to open someones eyes to something it is not for us to try and pry them open by insisting or pressuring if they dont agree or take. So as much we think someone should do something or make a particular choice, if its the one God has or them, they will naturally gravitate to it or get a desire for it. Often we just want them to do what WE think they should and get critical i they dont God will open the door for anything He wants to give someone. He can also close the door. We put the truth out there and God will opens the heart for all those who genuinely want to know Him and ask Him into their life. That is the only role we can play. God is the only one who saves. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creativemechanic Posted May 15, 2019 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 414 Topics Per Day: 0.12 Content Count: 1,273 Content Per Day: 0.36 Reputation: 518 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/22/2014 Status: Offline Author Share Posted May 15, 2019 I didn't necessarily mean in terms of salvation only. E.g. life choices. Getting a job, choosing what to study,even romantic options. A good personal example is people who try to match make or suggest people to you and try to berate you or make you feel as if you're wrong because you don't have interest in their choice for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willa Posted May 15, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 68 Topic Count: 186 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 14,242 Content Per Day: 3.33 Reputation: 16,653 Days Won: 30 Joined: 08/14/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted May 15, 2019 This also applies to doctrine. If God does not open our eyes to the truth of a teaching, we can't beat it into them with endless posts. Some truths are spiritually discerned. Moreover I am convinced that sometimes we need an extreme end of a doctrine to bring our perception into balance. For instance, a person who had been caught up in legalism may need to hear only grace and no works, because hearing works might bring them back to working to be good enough to go to heaven. While the person who was taught grace that thought that meant they can live like a heathen, that person may need to hear about righteous living because the word grace may mean to them that they can live like sinners. God brings our perception into balance by opening our ears to the teachings that we need to hear, that helps us to live for Him. My 2 cents. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not me Posted May 16, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 14 Topic Count: 512 Topics Per Day: 0.23 Content Count: 3,188 Content Per Day: 1.44 Reputation: 3,350 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/06/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted May 16, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, creativemechanic said: i had an epiphany- tell me i you think this makes sense biblically. If God has something in mind for someone, he will give them a desire for it or make them aware of it. So while God may use us (by suggesting or pointing out) to open someones eyes to something it is not for us to try and pry them open by insisting or pressuring if they dont agree or take. So as much we think someone should do something or make a particular choice, if its the one God has or them, they will naturally gravitate to it or get a desire for it. Often we just want them to do what WE think they should and get critical i they dont I think you are touching both sides of a great truth. As scripture says; “One plants, another waters, but it is God who gives the increase” Blessings as He brings increase to the inner man, who hungers and thirsts after Him. Blessings, Much love in Christ, Not me Edited May 16, 2019 by Not me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BorderCowboy Posted May 16, 2019 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 213 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 303 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/05/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted May 16, 2019 I don't know, pressurin' seem ta make folk's more defensive in m experience. ust my two bits, JJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortangel Posted May 16, 2019 Group: Senior Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 839 Content Per Day: 0.44 Reputation: 634 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/12/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted May 16, 2019 I suppose if God wants you to reveal or tell a word from the Lord to somebody he will give you the right words to say through the Holy Spirit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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