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2 minutes ago, Pekoudah said:

This is backwards. The one who is faithful in his/her dealings will be saved. No one is finally saved before the end of the race. We must all endure to the end and be judged according to the kind of fruit we bore.

 

The difference is what Jesus said...and what you say.

I do not support your interpretation. 

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3 minutes ago, missmuffet said:

I do not support your interpretation. 

Don't interpret it then.   Just read as Jesus Says to be saved Ekklesia must endure to the end.

Jesus also says do not think My Father will be pleased with those who draw back (as in fear,  not trusting the Father).

Since enduring to the end is required to be saved, 

then even if someone is saved 50 years before the end of their live, 

that won't be "known" and "proven" until they pass away , having endured faithful to the end.

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8 hours ago, Pekoudah said:

This is backwards. The one who is faithful in his/her dealings will be saved. No one is finally saved before the end of the race. We must all endure to the end and be judged according to the kind of fruit we bore.

 

The difference is what Jesus said...and what you say.

 

You have just seen legalism in a nutshell.

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And finally we have the good ground that bears a perfect kind of fruit to the Lord. A lasting fruit. An eternal fruit.

Now this land is not lifted up or abased. It is neither inflated with pride not is it abased in shame. It is as it is.

Is. 40:4 Every valley shall be lifted up, and every mountain and hill be made low; the uneven ground shall become level, and the rough places a plain.

This is speaking of us...who go through the training of the Lord and are worked into someone who bears fruit to God...for His glory.

Whether we are born into loving families or war zones...we all have to take the same steps by faith to get to a balanced and level platform whereby the Lord can develop us into fruitful vessels of His holiness.

No one is born as good soil. It must be by transformation into the likeness of Christ. So it is a level playing field for all. Every circumstance is an opportunity for growth or for stagnation. If we can see it that way.

This is the difference between wisdom and foolishness. To take hold of (or not) our opportunities in the calling of God.

So we are to bear His fruit. To be made partakers of HIS holiness. We never have our own. To be made partakers of His life. Not our own.

If we can take the ground...to possess the land....that we find within ourselves...we will find that our attitude in faith can overcome all adversity, any lack in upbringing, any inherited trait, any delusional influence. We overcome by the blood of the Lamb (His life we enter into), by our faith, and by our testimony to His faithfulness in our lives.

We grow into the likeness and stature of Christ by allowing the Lord to do His work and have His way in us. The stony places become the tender and gentle places in our hearts. We become weaned from this world and our love and dependence on it... so that we are permitted to see heaven in the distance by God's permission as we walk in the Spirit. And His mysteries are reveled to us by His revelation and visitation (episkopay) that we might be partakers of a fullness of peace and joy.

And so we are being converted...an ongoing process of a full salvation...an entire sanctification.

Peace to all.

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