Gomorah demons are here and about

[Guest PinkBelt]

3 hours ago, Cletus said:

It was in the 80's profanity on T.V. began.  Shortly after on the radio.   At first it was just one or two words for a whole 30 minute show.  Now turn on the T.V., its every sentence. 

Unless you count people calling African American's the N word on normal television, Asian's other slurs and so on in the 50's and 60's.  The airwaves were full of racist language and rhetoric. You think it was better because it didn't have swears?

3 hours ago, Cletus said:

 In the 90's high school kids would stop listening to a musical artist, and stop buying their albums if it was made public they were homosexual.  Now it seems to be if someone is gay it is something that qualifies them as being "cool"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janis_Joplin 60's

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dusty_Springfield 60's

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debbie_Harry 70's

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Bowie 70's

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boy_George 80's

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Michael 80's

As a 90's teen I assure you none of my peers gave a rat's behind if an artist was gay.

 

3 hours ago, Cletus said:

I really started noticing in the 80's how morality was on a rapid decline.  Today its wicked beyond what anyone thought it could ever be like 40-50 years ago.  What it says in the bible is coming to pass concerning the end times.  Morality is on the decline.  

The spirit of anti-Christ has been very busy for awhile now. 

The 50's only had lynchings, segregation, McCarthyism, high domestic violence and hatred. Child pornography was legal until the 70's. I fail to see how you think that era was any more moral than any other.

 

4 hours ago, Debp said:

I'm a lot older than you so I am speaking from experience from the 1950's onward, that there was a difference, compared to more current times.  Most people believed in God then and church on Sundays was the norm.   In public school, we began class with prayer.   People were respectful of the clergy and others.   One hardly heard of divorce or murder.   I remember hearing of one divorce back then and it was shocking to us.   Families with two parents were the norm.   There definitely is a change in society for the worse since the free sex movement began in the late 1960's.

Church attendance was between 39% and 49% depending on where you went, not exactly as high as you seem to think. After 1960 it has declined steadily. Until the Divorce Reform Act of 1969 it was very difficult to get a divorce, especially a woman. Therefore it is not surprising that it was much rarer.

 

Point being, people have always been immoral and engaged in depraved, degrading and sometimes evil behavior. It's not new, times were not once better and this too will pass. 

Edited July 3, 2019 by PinkBelt

[simplejeff]

5 hours ago, Cletus said:

it was in the 80's profanity on tv began. 

The lies on television , broadcast EVERY DAY SINCE THEN,  were already around about 1948 with the first widely broadcast television commercials.   The television shows also,  were UNrighteous - opposed to God, almost all.

Even the so-called family shows,  "so nice",  "so wonderful",  were without Jesus,  and instead served another worldly 'god', mostly money.

So no,   television was never "good", nor "right" with true Christians.  It was and is a plague of the spirits, minds,  and health of children and adults everywhere.

[simplejeff]

1 hour ago, PinkBelt said:

Point being, people have always been immoral and engaged in depraved, degrading and sometimes evil behavior. It's not new, times were not once better and this too will pass. 

"People" > "Society",  yes,  has always been pernicious(death producing) ,   even or worse when it pretended to be Godly but refused His Instructions and did not call on Him for healing, for help, or for salvation even !

Ungodliness is promoted everywhere, every day,  without shame, without conscience, without blushing!  ("MY PEOPLE have FORGOTTEN HOW TO BLUSH") .........   it is a terribly wicked world,  and is doomed.

[LadyKay]

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The California State Assembly has passed a resolution telling pastors to affirm homosexuality in violation of their biblical beliefs.

I am not sure where you all are on this topic since I have not read every post. So forgive me if this has been addressed.  But I would think that this would be in violation of separation of church and state.  The government can not interfere with religious teachings. So I am unsure how this can be. I will look into it more to see if I can get more info on this. 

[LadyKay]

Here is a link to the Bill I found:  http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=201920200ACR99

 

I have not seen where it is ordering pastors to affirm homosexuality. But I am still looking into things. So at this point I do not know for sure what this really means. 

[Neighbor]

31 minutes ago, LadyKay said:

Here is a link to the Bill I found:  http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=201920200ACR99

 

I have not seen where it is ordering pastors to affirm homosexuality. But I am still looking into things. So at this point I do not know for sure what this really means. 

It is a resolution.  I am addressing this resolution:

ASSEMBLY CONCURRENT RESOLUTION

NO. 99

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Introduced by Assembly Member Low (Principal coauthors: Assembly Members Cervantes, Eggman, and Gloria) (Principal coauthors: Senators Atkins, Galgiani, and Wiener) (Coauthors: Assembly Members Aguiar-Curry, Arambula, Bauer-Kahan, Bloom, Boerner Horvath, Bonta, Burke, Calderon, Carrillo, Chiu, Chu, Friedman, Gabriel, Cristina Garcia, Gipson, Gonzalez, Kalra, Kamlager-Dove, Levine, Maienschein, McCarty, Medina, Muratsuchi, Nazarian, O’Donnell, Petrie-Norris, Quirk, Quirk-Silva, Reyes, Luz Rivas, Robert Rivas, Rodriguez, Blanca Rubio, Smith, Mark Stone, Ting, Wicks, and Wood Wood, Berman, Chau, Cooley, Cooper, Daly, Frazier, Eduardo Garcia, Gray, Holden, Irwin, Jones-Sawyer, Limón, Mayes, Mullin, Rendon, Salas, Santiago, and Weber)

June 04, 2019

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Relative to civil rights. 

 

LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL'S DIGEST

 

ACR 99, as amended, Low. Civil rights: lesbian, gay, bisexual, or transgender people.

This measure would call upon all Californians to embrace the individual and social benefits of family and community acceptance, upon religious leaderswith conviction to counsel on LGBT LGBTQ matters from a place of love, compassion, and knowledge of the psychological and other harms of conversion therapy, and on upon the people of California and the institutions of California with great moral influence to model equitable treatment of all people of the state.

DIGEST KEY

Fiscal Committee: no  

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BILL TEXT

WHEREAS, The California State Legislature has found that being lesbian, gay, bisexual, or transgender (LGBT) (LGBTQ) is not a disease, disorder, illness, deficiency, or shortcoming; and

WHEREAS, Major professional associations of mental and physical health recognize that being LGBT LGBTQ is part of natural variations that occur in sexual orientation and gender identity, and recommend responsive services that foster self-acceptance and skills to cope with social stigma and discrimination; and

WHEREAS, Practices or therapies that attempt to create a change in a person’s sexual orientation or gender identity are often referred to as conversion therapy; and

WHEREAS, Some family, caregivers, and communities promote conversion therapy when a person is known or thought to be LGBT; LGBTQ; and

WHEREAS, California law recognizes that performing conversion therapy on young persons is ineffective, unethical, and harmful; and

WHEREAS, Conversion therapy has been rejected as ineffective, unethical, and harmful by leading medical, mental health, and child welfare organizations in the United States; and

WHEREAS, The stigma associated with being LGBT LGBTQ often created by groups in society, including therapists and religious groups, has caused disproportionately high rates of suicide, attempted suicide, depression, rejection, and isolation amongst LGBT LGBTQ and questioning individuals; and

WHEREAS, The State of California has a compelling interest in protecting the physical and psychological well-being of minors, including LGBT LGBTQyouth, and in protecting its minors against exposure to serious harms caused by family rejection and attempts to change sexual orientation or gender identity; and

WHEREAS, In a pluralistic society, people differing along spectrums of political and religious perspectives share a common responsibility of protecting the health and well-being of all children and vulnerable communities; now, therefore, be it

Resolved by the Assembly of the State of California, the Senate thereof concurring, That the Legislature calls upon all Californians to embrace the individual and social benefits of family and community acceptance; and be it further

Resolved, That the Legislature calls upon religious leaders with conviction to counsel on LGBT LGBTQ matters from a place of love, compassion, and knowledge of the psychological and other harms of conversion therapy; and be it further

Resolved, That in addressing the stigma often associated with persons who identify as LGBT, LGBTQ, we call on the people of California–especially its counselors, pastors, religious workers, educators, and legislators–and the institutions of California with great moral influence–especially its churches, universities, colleges, and other schools, counseling centers, activist groups, and religious centers–to model equitable treatment of all people of the state; and be it further

Resolved, That the Chief Clerk of the Assembly transmit copies of this resolution to the author for appropriate distribution.

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[simplejeff]

18 hours ago, pinacled said:

Nothing new except that there is no returning to heaven to accuse mankind.

The accuser is still very active and the results of his activity are seen every day on the forum and all over the earth.

[LadyKay]

38 minutes ago, Neighbor said:

 matters from a place of love

How can to pass a Bill that order people to love? Interesting.

[simplejeff]

15 hours ago, Debp said:

 In those years one could go into any church with the sense of the pastor being a holy man of God, that could counsel and offer help.

Hardly.  Unrighteousness and wickednesses were very common in church leaders , since around 300 a.d. through today.  Sometimes it makes the news.   Usually it is covered up.

Perhaps, in those years,  one "would think" they could go into any church....  thus.....

but finding a holy man of God in any century has been rare, as they are "few".

Jesus says "There are many false religious teachers"  ... and "beware the teachings of the religious teachers" and

"test everything" BEFORE accepting it or believing it. (like the Bereans)

[simplejeff]

3 hours ago, PinkBelt said:

The 50's only had lynchings, segregation, McCarthyism, high domestic violence and hatred. Child pornography was legal until the 70's. I fail to see how you think that era was any more moral than any other.

Appropriate for the title of this thread too.   IN the 50's ,  the cures known and proven were made illegal,  and the use of toxins increased substantially,  causing autism(yes, they knew the cause back then) and sids and diabetes and seizures and so forth , without admitting it usually. (and spending billions of dollars to cover it up) ....