Do you know your judged or condemned?

[Reinitin]

14 hours ago, Sonshine☀️ said:

I didn’t do anything, but Jesus did.  He died for me and set me free.

Free from what?

[Reinitin]

On 7/12/2019 at 12:45 AM, Sonshine☀️ said:

Why did you not quote the scripture in its entirety?  

Romans 6:22-23 King James Version (KJV)

22 But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.

23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Because, I want to slow it down and cover it step by step. So people that are stuck, can walk it out and people that don't understand one another can hear each other's thought process. If your a sinner and Holy Spirit or maybe Satan is tormenting you that you are being judged by God? And you call on the Lord and you still are tormented like your under judgment. What have you missed In the word or is that normal? What has the person not heard or recieves to comfort and encourage them? Their are confessed Christians on her still tormented by Satan. Slow it down, so it's evident and they can see it and recieve it. people are spouting out everything they learned in 10 to 20 years in one post. Same thing over and over again. Instead of leading people through the path of the mercies they themselves recieved. You see the second part but others only see the first part cause they are not free and at the second part yet. They are still in torment and judgement. And we should care about that not just proclaim people unsaved since its mature Christians that are suppose to help the weak in faith not Lord their position over them.

[Dennis1209]

11 hours ago, Reinitin said:

Because, I want to slow it down and cover it step by step. So people that are stuck, can walk it out and people that don't understand one another can hear each other's thought process. If your a sinner and Holy Spirit or maybe Satan is tormenting you that you are being judged by God? And you call on the Lord and you still are tormented like your under judgment. What have you missed In the word or is that normal? What has the person not heard or recieves to comfort and encourage them? Their are confessed Christians on her still tormented by Satan. Slow it down, so it's evident and they can see it and recieve it. people are spouting out everything they learned in 10 to 20 years in one post. Same thing over and over again. Instead of leading people through the path of the mercies they themselves recieved. You see the second part but others only see the first part cause they are not free and at the second part yet. They are still in torment and judgement. And we should care about that not just proclaim people unsaved since its mature Christians that are suppose to help the weak in faith not Lord their position over them.

Sounds like you're trying to use 'systematic theology'? 

[Leonardo Von]

On 7/12/2019 at 11:40 AM, Reinitin said:

Let's Go and debate this.. backing up.. what is sin? 2 or 3 verses that are very clear. No opinions no commentary.. 2 or 3 clear verses in God's word? Does any one know what sin is?

Jas 1:13-15 ->"Let no one being tempted say, I am tempted from God. For God is not tempted by evils, and He tempts no one. But each one is tempted by his lusts, being drawn away and seduced by them. Then when lust has conceived, it brings forth sin. And sin, when it is fully formed, brings forth death.". 

1Co 15:56 -> "The sting of death is sin, and the strength of sin is the Law."

1John 3:4 -> "Whosoever committeth sin committeth also iniquity. And sin is iniquity."

[Mike Mclees]

On 7/12/2019 at 3:50 AM, Pekoudah said:

People tend to not accept the truth of one verse (that sounds impossible to obey) in order to seemingly confirm the truth of another (that the flesh can willingly accept).

So the truth has a polarity. There are 2 sides to the truth. One part seems hard and the other seems easy. We are not to pick the aspect of the truth we prefer while denying the other one.

Now people will justify themselves by denying the part of the truth that would appear to condemn them...as in...the wages of sin is death ...this is an ongoing true statement. It remains firmly established as scriptural truth. The other pole of the truth begins with...BUT.... the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus. People like to make a choice of the latter statement while denying the first. As if one aspect of the truth could be selected as needed while denying the other.

People will take this (because they want this) to mean that they are saved IN their sins...because of the gift of God. As if the gift of God was given to negate the truth. But that's not the truth. The truth doesn't change, or is destroyed, by a gift from God. God never works against the truth. But people do...they will twist the meaning of the scriptures to get a pass AROUND the truth.

So what the dual polarity concerning truth means is that through the gift of grace....we overcome the sin that was previously taking us to death. The truth is not being understood if we have to make a lie out of one half of the bible.

 

 

Have we ever considered that Gods writen word will be our indictment in the day of judgement of heaven or hell. 

It was mentioned that Jesus said " those who love me keep my commandments." has any here lived up this command?. The question is how do we fulfill this command? We may say by the Holy Spirit but is that a truth? Jesus said the the Holy Spirit shall convict the world of sin.

I dare one of us has been able to live perfect. It is by grace alone that we shall have eternal life.