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2 hours ago, Walter and Deborah said:

The deceivers, if not repented of, they will get their reward.

Yes , meats drinks and days I worry not over .     But satans unity I will have no part of it .   ALL who are deceived will have their reward .    

I bet less than five percent of beleivers and less than that in the western societies , even know WHY on earth I warn against this unity so many are joining up with .

ITS in every group man .     They got all the religions , they got all the denominations in one way or another .  

You name a denomination , and I can SHOW YOU many men and women who are under its unity in one way or another .

That aint coinicidence .  ITS A DELUSOIN and its part of the end time one .    Help me expose it .     But yeah ,  I worry not over meats , drinks and days .

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1 hour ago, frienduff thaylorde said:

Yes , meats drinks and days I worry not over .     But satans unity I will have no part of it .   ALL who are deceived will have their reward .    

I bet less than five percent of beleivers and less than that in the western societies , even know WHY on earth I warn against this unity so many are joining up with .

ITS in every group man .     They got all the religions , they got all the denominations in one way or another .  

You name a denomination , and I can SHOW YOU many men and women who are under its unity in one way or another .

That aint coinicidence .  ITS A DELUSOIN and its part of the end time one .    Help me expose it .     But yeah ,  I worry not over meats , drinks and days .

As long as folks keep it as something between themselves and God, then I would agree it is not something to worry about.  However,  Paul spent a lot of paper and ink on defending the faith against Judaizing and falling away from grace by going back under the law.  Judaizing is a serious deception and attack against the faith......even if it did not lead to being unequally yoked with unbelieving Jewry, which is a false unity in itself. 


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2 hours ago, frienduff thaylorde said:

I want you to reread your last question .    How can they enter into the Lords rest when they reject HIS day of rest .

IT should read , HOW can they enter into the rest in CHRIST ,  if they reject HIM .     JESUS is our rest .   Not from good works , but from evil

FOR the evil are as the troubled sea that rest not .   

I got a trivia question for you .     There is this man I know ,      and he was married before .      He has come to Christ now .     Can he remarry or should he stay single .

Remember God gives grace .       But what is grace .    

And another question .    I know a man that had his vehicle crushed in , the door wont even open .     The insurance company of the driver who hit the mans vehicle

said , due to the vehicle age that he wont be able to recover the necessary money to fix the door .    His only option is to sue the ones who hit him .

What do you believe he should do .

Now ,   I beg and plead you answer both questions .  

It wasnt addressed to me, but its fair game ...

1) Depends on the circumstance of divorce, which was not given. 

2) The bible only states that we are not to sue our brethren in Christ. So again, it depends on the circumstances, which was not given. Dont know how it is in your state btw, but in mine, if the insurance says the car is too old to fix, it is declared totaled and if you decide to fix it, you cant insure it again and you have to have a special title for the car that calls it "salvage".

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2 hours ago, frienduff thaylorde said:

I want you to reread your last question .    How can they enter into the Lords rest when they reject HIS day of rest .

IT should read , HOW can they enter into the rest in CHRIST ,  if they reject HIM .     JESUS is our rest .   Not from good works , but from evil

FOR the evil are as the troubled sea that rest not .   

Amen!  \o/  The Sabbath was only a shadow of ceasing from our own works.  Jesus said the Father and I are always working to this day. Jesus not doing His own works, but the works of the Father.

Jhn 5:16-18

And therefore did the Jews persecute Jesus, and sought to slay him, because he had done these things on the sabbath day.

But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, and I work.

Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.

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Grace. Grace gives us Commandments for our own good and not as the whim of a capricious God.

"THE GRACE OF GOD" ... So grace is favor, "unmerited favor." Salvation by Grace.Grace is, therefore, God's unmerited favor - His goodness toward those who have no claim on, nor reason to expect, divine favor. The principal manifestation of God's grace has been in the form of a gift.

Divine grace is a theological term present in many religions. It has been defined as the divine influence which operates in humans to regenerate and sanctify, to inspire virtuous impulses, and to impart strength to endure trial and resist temptation; and as an individual virtue or excellence of divine origin.

Irresistible grace (or efficacious grace) is a doctrine in Christian theology particularly associated with Calvinism, which teaches that the saving grace of God is effectually applied to those whom He has determined to save (the elect) and, in God's timing, overcomes their resistance to obeying the call of the gospel.           (this is wrong)

“And if by grace, then it is no longer by works; if it were, grace would no longer be grace.” (Romans 11:6) There is nothing you can do to make you unworthy of God's grace. In fact, by definition, grace is a gift to the unworthy. God's grace is greater than your deepest, darkest sin. God can even forgive that.

I decided to find out some common explanations of Grace by a simple search. I was hoping to represent what most will think of when the word 'grace' is used.

Some have mentioned in various posts that Grace is somehow to be disdained and seen as a cop out. 
For instance, if I belabor God's goodness and Grace, I might be seen by some as trying to excuse sins and promote a very promiscuous use of the word. I.e. "Oh God will forgive me whatever I do since I am saved." That kind of thing.
I have heard the term 'greasy grace' used in a like manner. This is called 'messaging'. Spreading a concept (maybe unlike the actual subject) and is often used as an advertising methods in campaigns. It gives a 'feeling' for something and is subtle and not necessarily a reliable connotation. But it works.

This misrepresenting of grace has nothing to do with God, but with how us humans tend to speak of one another. And who do we often see as the worst offenders? Christians by far! So why is that? Is it because they/we are generally ashamed of ourselves and just cannot grasp GRACE in its truest and most meaningful passion.
Yes PASSION. That is what Grace is. It is God's Passionate Love for His Creation; for all men, women and children.

So when we talk of Grace in referring to God and His Wonderful Personality of love, kindness and forgiveness, perhaps we ought to be careful. If it's possible to misapply or misuse His Grace, then maybe we should leave it up to Him to decide.


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2 hours ago, ayin jade said:

It wasnt addressed to me, but its fair game ...

1) Depends on the circumstance of divorce, which was not given. 

2) The bible only states that we are not to sue our brethren in Christ. So again, it depends on the circumstances, which was not given. Dont know how it is in your state btw, but in mine, if the insurance says the car is too old to fix, it is declared totaled and if you decide to fix it, you cant insure it again and you have to have a special title for the car that calls it "salvage".

Oh , I sure did forget to say the cirumstances on the marriage ordeal .   So I guess that one will be left unanswered .

The man is me .     They said they could total it , and give me that value ,    Only I need the vehicle for my self employed job .

So ,  I was fully determined that if I only got ten bucks , I WOULD NEVER SUE them .   I Flat out refused it .

Ends up I got an eight hundred dollar check .    And kept the vehicle .     But I bodly refuse to sue .   

As for the remarriage ,  I wont remarry it would be adultery .     I stick with JESUS words and will twist none .

But I don't want anyone worried about how depressed or lonely they think I might be , By honoring JESUS and refusing to partake in adultery .

ITS SO JOYFUL and what GREAT PEACE to just FOLLOW and OBEY the LORD .      No Prozac for me ,  TOTAL JOY in the LORD .

I hope we learning some things and are encouraged by this . 

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2 hours ago, Betha said:

I'm sure you already know that if we break ONE of the 10 it is as if we broke all....because they only work 'as a whole ! Jas 2v10.

Paul obviously kept the Sabbath as well because he says - WE are to follow Him as he followed Christ ( the Lord of the Sabbath) 1Cor 11v1.

NOW people don't want us to even mention the Sabbath, how low has man fallen !

I actually get encouraged when folks mention the Sabbath .    Folks should encourage folks to worship on that day too .

But when folks assume others are in danger of hell fire cause they don't ,  that is what bothers me .     Not saying you said this ,  or Justin .

But just saying I have dealt with lots of false men of belial in the religion of SDA ,  and sister , they will flat out make it seem like you aint saved  period if you

don't hold a day as they do .   And ol frienduff has declared war against that kind of mindset .    no worries , its not carnal warfare and such .

ITs exposure warfare .    Those who honor the Sabbath should never condmen those who don't , those who don't should never mock and persuade those who do

In meats days or drinks ,   Let each be fully persuaded in their own mind .   I would never try and talk a jew or any who believes in CHRIST out of doing Sabbath

or telling them ITS all right go on now eat that pork .   NOPE .  IN fact around these i just eat as they do and PRAISE THE LORD .

WE might wanna Do the same .     


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2 hours ago, ayin jade said:

It wasnt addressed to me, but its fair game ...

1) Depends on the circumstance of divorce, which was not given. 

2) The bible only states that we are not to sue our brethren in Christ. So again, it depends on the circumstances, which was not given. Dont know how it is in your state btw, but in mine, if the insurance says the car is too old to fix, it is declared totaled and if you decide to fix it, you cant insure it again and you have to have a special title for the car that calls it "salvage".

Sister , i would be the biggest hyprocrite if i said , Hey it was not addressed to you ,   I DO THIS ALL THE TIME .  SO anytime i address anyone , I don't mind WHO answers .

NOW put those hands up and let a festival of praise be sang to the LORD .    That's right ,   Hands up and praise the LORD .  And you were prayed for the other night dear sister at the group .

You are loved .    I honestly care not who here cannot stand me ,   I got true love for all the people .   ANd the JOY of the LORD abounds .  


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Prayers much appreciated. And I do praise Him. And thank Him.

 

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And WHO is the truth that we are to abide in?  Christ Jesus our Lord.  Abide in Him for He is the vine and we are the branches......abide in His Spirit which dwells in us.   Walk in His Spirit.  He is the Way and the Truth and the Life.  Serve in the new way of HIS Spirit.

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