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39 minutes ago, one.opinion said:

You must know that is false. There is abundant evidence.

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Name some. I will show it is a belief and a belief in the same nature in the past.

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I believe the same nature existed in the past because of evidence. Period.

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No you do not and you cannot post any.

 

Are you going to attempt to provide different evidence, or plausible explanations consistent with evidence to support your conjectures?

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My observation is that science does not know what forces and laws on earth used to exist. Therefore the only support required is that you continue failing to support any claim that it was the same.

 

 


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47 minutes ago, The Barbarian said:
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Yes, that's using nature.

No, that is God creating and could never resemble the theory of evolution. Be honest.

 

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As I showed, you his body was produced naturally, but his soul (like ours) was given directly by God. 

Parroting foolish slogans is not debating. His body was formed by God and Eve was created from a bone of the man. Why not just admit you do not believe Scripture?

  

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  You're still having a little trouble understanding or maybe accepting what God did.    Just trust Him and let it be His way.

Translation: God did not really create a man from the dust and form and fashion him, and did not take a bone from the man and create woman, but man reeaaallly evolved from common ancestors with flatworms. Correct anything in this translation that is not accurate.

 


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5 hours ago, dad2 said:

No, that is God creating and could never resemble the theory of evolution. Be honest.

You know  that evolution is God's creation.   Be honest.

5 hours ago, dad2 said:

Parroting foolish slogans is not debating.

Then maybe you should try putting a cogent argument together.   God says that life was produced by the earth.    Why not just admit you do not believe Scripture?     You're still having a little trouble understanding or maybe accepting what God did.    Just trust Him and let it be His way.

5 hours ago, dad2 said:

God did not really create a man from the dust and form and fashion him[/quote]

He did.   You just don't approve of the way He did it.   Earlier, you learned that the text itself shows that the creation account in Genesis is not a literal history.   Instead of trying to improve on His word, just accept it as it is.

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, The Barbarian said:
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You know  that evolution is God's creation. 

That is a lie. Evolving, reproduction, intelligence, eyesight, etc etc are all God given attributes. They cannot be credited with creation.

 

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 God says that life was produced by the earth. 

 No. He says He formed man from the dust of the earth. He also says He formed woman from a bone of the man. Eve was not produced by the earth, but created by God, as was Adam.

 Nor did animals get produced by the earth, but buy God from the earth. He made the earth bring forth the kinds. That is not the earth producing, it is God.

I can understand pagans who are deceived and confused. I cannot countenance people claiming to be believers and accepting Scripture actively deceiving and trying to confuse others repeatedly and fanatically.

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Posted
8 hours ago, dad2 said:

That is a lie.

It's observably true.   

8 hours ago, dad2 said:

Evolving, reproduction, intelligence, eyesight, etc etc are all God given attributes.

Of course.  Reproduction is a God-given attribute.   You don't think you're a creature of God?    How so?

 God says that life was produced by the earth. 

8 hours ago, dad2 said:

 No.

Well, let's take a look...

Gen 1:24 And God said: Let the earth bring forth the living creature in its kind, cattle and creeping things, and beasts of the earth, according to their kinds. And it was so done.

If you claim to be Christian, at least accept God's word.

 

 

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Posted
16 hours ago, dad2 said:

No. There is no evidence, only beliefs. You believe a same nature in the past existed. Period.

If you were truly interested in discussing evidence, you would have shared some in the last 7 posts that I asked for it.

Once you provide evidence that the K-Pg boundary was laid down post-flood, or that radiometric dating is flawed, or that genetics worked differently in the past, or evidence for any other unsubstantiated claims you have made - then I will consider meeting your evidence requests.

It isn’t good dialogue to repeatedly ignore requests for evidence, then demand some of your own.


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15 hours ago, dad2 said:

Parroting foolish slogans is not debating. His body was formed by God and Eve was created from a bone of the man. Why not just admit you do not believe Scripture?

That is the Job of a troll.... You are dealing with them here. Read 2 Timothy 3:7-9.... yes trolls are in the Bible as well. 

God Bless


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15 hours ago, dad2 said:

Parroting foolish slogans is not debating. His body was formed by God and Eve was created from a bone of the man. Why not just admit you do not believe Scripture?

That is the Job of a troll.... You are dealing with them here. Read 2 Timothy 3:7-9.... yes trolls are in the Bible as well. 

God Bless

BTW They always come in pairs... read 1 timothy 1:20, and 2 Timothy 2:17 and the context of those verses. 

God Bless. 


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1 hour ago, The Barbarian said:
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It's observably true.   

In your head, not in God's word. Evolution is not mentioned in Scripture, and certainly not as the way we got here. In fact it tells us God formed man and woman separately and directly. So if you use the word evolution to mean the theory of evolution, that is not observed.

 

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Of course.  Reproduction is a God-given attribute.   You don't think you're a creature of God?    How so?

The first man is not you, or me. Adam was not born of a woman as you were. Eve was not born of a woman! Neither were born but created directly by God. Evolution (TOE) denies this.

 

 

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Gen 1:24 And God said: Let the earth bring forth the living creature in its kind, cattle and creeping things, and beasts of the earth, according to their kinds. And it was so done.

 And the morning and the evening were the sixth day.

How did God do this? " And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind "

So God created every kind of animal using the earth. The earth did not bring forth of itself anything!

Likewise, the sea creatures were created by kinds and THEN told to multiply.

21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind:

 


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1 hour ago, one.opinion said:
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If you were truly interested in discussing evidence, you would have shared some in the last 7 posts that I asked for it.

There IS no evidence to discuss from science, otherwise you would have posted some! What you thought was evidence was belief only. Really. Name any evidence and we will see.

There is evidence of history and the bible. That agrees with me.

 

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Once you provide evidence that the K-Pg boundary was laid down post-flood, or that radiometric dating is flawed, or that genetics worked differently in the past, or evidence for any other unsubstantiated claims you have made - then I will consider meeting your evidence requests.

The KT is a sedimentary layer. It contains material that science says comes from deep under the earth, or out in space. The flood waters came from there also. The fountains of the deep erupted so we may have had forceful eruptions/impacts in places  that came from down, not up! We all have the same evidence. No one needs to embrace your beliefs. Unless you post evidence that the sediment was produced as you claim, you have lost.

 

Stop pretending you have scientific evidence.

 

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