GALATIANS 1:8 WHO IS ACCURSED ?

[Behold]

On 12/18/2019 at 12:10 PM, BibleGuy said:

"NO, he does not preach that verse.  "

Sure he does!  Galatians is written by Paul....so OF COURSE Paul wrote Gal. 1:8.

No he is not preaching that verse... He is teaching it about people like you,

So, i have a question for you.

How does the Blood Atonement explain exactly how the Righteousness of Christ, that is given as a Free Gift, keep you saved ?

[BibleGuy]

1 minute ago, Behold said:

No he is not preaching that verse... He is teaching it about people like you,

So, i have a question for you.

How does the Blood Atonement explain exactly how the Righteousness of Christ, that is given as a Free Gift, keep you saved ?

PAUL WROTE GAL.1:8.  So OF COURSE it's true.

 

"How does the Blood Atonement explain exactly how the Righteousness of Christ, that is given as a Free Gift, keep you saved ?"

The blood cleanses us from sin IF we walk in the light (1Jn.1:7).  Torah is our light (Ps.119:105).

 

RIGHTEOUSNESS is a gift....AND also something we do (1Jn.2:29;3:7;Mt.5:20).

 

The gift is free....but we are still free to reject it.

 

blessings...

 

[BibleGuy]

13 hours ago, Willa said:

Gal 1:6 NKJV   I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel,

Gal 1:7  which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ.

Gal 1:8  But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed.

Gal 1:9  As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed.

Gal 2:16  knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law but by faith in Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, that we might be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the law; for by the works of the law no flesh shall be justified.

Gal 2:21  I do not set aside the grace of God; for if righteousness comes through the law, then Christ died in vain."  

People who tried to earn their righteousness by being good or keeping the law and who taught others to do that were those who were accursed.   Many cults get their teaching from false doctrine they claim had come from angels.

Paul taught repentance toward God, the Kingdom of God, as well as the Gospel of grace.

 Act 20:20  “how I kept back nothing that was helpful, but proclaimed it to you, and taught you publicly and from house to house,

 Act 20:21 “testifying to Jews, and also to Greeks, repentance toward God and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.

Act 20:24  “But none of these things move me; nor do I count my life dear to myself, so that I may finish my race with joy, and the ministry which I received from the Lord Jesus, to testify to the gospel of the grace of God. Act 20:25  “And indeed, now I know that you all, among whom I have gone preaching the kingdom of God, will see my face no more.

 

 

Thanks!

And that SAME PAUL requires ALL TORAH (2Ti.3:16).  Agreed?

blessings...

 

[Behold]

4 hours ago, douge said:

 

Even the "old Peter" was still preaching the Davidic kingdom as seen in 1 Peter 1:5....

 

Im not sure what you are denominationally , but, you apparently dont read a bible.   I suspect that you are like the other 3 here who are Grace deniers, and all of you are probably obsessed with bible commentaries that have lied to you, misled you, and ruined you both spiritually and theologically...   as that is usually what does it.    Sometimes its the Pastor, Minister, or Pope, but when someone is this far gone, (you) this far removed from the Grace of God and truth....then 9/10, ist going to be a heretics commentaries that have ruined the person.    

You're twisted theologically, and you dont even realize it.   But i do.

You just said that 1 Peter 1:5, is teaching something about the Israeli's and the Davidic Kingdom.....and that is because your bible is dusty, and your commentary that you are using is a pack of lier's lies.

Here is the verse...1 Peter 1:5, KJV:    "Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time." .

This is justification by faith, that Paul teaches.

Let me explain the verse to you, and for the benefit of boring the real Christians here who can READ A DIMESTORE BIBLE.

1. ) "Kept"".       Do you see that word?       This means SUSTAINING without END.      And its talking about anyone who is born again.   That we are "KEPT....KEPT. KEPT"......by THIS verse...... >Philippians 1:6.<   "God who began your salvation, will Himself be FAITHFUL TO COMPLETE IT"..

DO YOU COMPREHEND THE WORD "COMPLETE" in that verse?    its means finish it.  It means that we are KEPT......as Peter says.........and then Paul explains why.....>"God will be faithful to complete what is KEPT"......and WHO is that all about?   Thats the born again person's Eternal Life.  Its their entire redemption........And why does is happen this way?.....Why is is kept, and finished by God and not by YOU?    Because Jesus is eternal life.  He is Salvation.. He is Justification and Sanctification....>He is REDEMPTION and GRACE........= Jesus Himself.,<    So, to be Kept  by God who is faithful to complete Salvation for all the born again, is because .: 

1.) we are the righteousness of Christ.......THAT IS WHO WE ARE, IF WE ARE BORN AGAIN.  That is our NEW IDENTITY "in Christ".  "new Creation".

2.) WE ARE IN CHRIST, AND CHRIST IS IN US.    So, the One who Himself is the "resurrection and the Life", and is "eternal life'.....IS IN US......SO, WE ARE IN GOD AND IN CHRIST.  = "KEPT"< !!!

WE ARE ALL ONE.......for ETERNITY.  = "KEPT".

Now, look at this other part of Peter's verse.   "by the power of God".........  Do you see that?   That is the preaching of the Cross, that is the "power of God unto SALVATION".......Which is what Paul preaches in HIS VERSE about the "preaching of THE CROSS."

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So, why dont you know any of this?

WHY !!!

Why doesn't your pastor, pope, minister, bishop, or COMMENTARY, KNOW THIS AND TEACH IT TO YOU?.... instead of ME?

Its because THEY can't teach what THEY dont believe, and THEY can't teach what THEY dont know.

You are lost in the weeds.  You are so far from the Light.... .and not just you, around here.

You need to get away from everything and everyone who has influence you and infected you with their heresy that you teach.

I dont think you will, because i think you are not wanting to know the truth.   You are like the rest. you just want TO HEAR YOURSELF TALK ON A FORUM.

And THAT is a big problem., fella.

 

[BibleGuy]

4 hours ago, bcbsr said:

As I read it Peter and Paul were preaching the same gospel

Here's Peter's sermon in Acts 10, preaching to a Gentile.

"You know the message God sent to the people of Israel, telling the good news of peace through Jesus Christ, who is Lord of all. You know what has happened throughout Judea, beginning in Galilee after the baptism that John preached— how God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and power, and how he went around doing good and healing all who were under the power of the devil, because God was with him. We are witnesses of everything he did in the country of the Jews and in Jerusalem. They killed him by hanging him on a tree, but God raised him from the dead on the third day and caused him to be seen. He was not seen by all the people, but by witnesses whom God had already chosen— by us who ate and drank with him after he rose from the dead. He commanded us to preach to the people and to testify that he is the one whom God appointed as judge of the living and the dead. All the prophets testify about him that everyone who believes in him receives forgiveness of sins through his name."

Same as Paul's gospel. And nothing about a kingdom on earth promised to Israel.

"Same as Paul's gospel. And nothing about a kingdom on earth promised to Israel."

Paul says the GOSPEL includes that which was preached to ABRAHAM (Gal.3:8) which is the PROMISED LAND INHERITANCE (Ge.12:1), and CHRISTIANS SHARE IN THAT LAND INHERITANCE (Gal.3:29;Eph.3:6).

AND!

We inherit the land in 100% obedience to ALL TORAH (Dt.30:1-8)....when ALL NATIONS will serve us or perish (Is.60:12).

THAT is a mighty KINGDOM ON EARTH PROMISED TO ISRAEL!

And no believer is excluded from Israel (Eph.2:12).

 

blessings...

 

Edited December 19, 2019 by BibleGuy

[Behold]

52 minutes ago, BibleGuy said:

PAUL WROTE GAL.1:8.  So OF COURSE it's true.

 

You said he was preaching it, the last 2 times you misused the New Testament.

Now you say he "wrote it", as if that is what you said the last 2 times.

Maybe you should just try telling the truth.

Practice that,  is my suggestion.

[BibleGuy]

2 minutes ago, Behold said:

You said he was preaching it, the last 2 times you misused the New Testament.

Now you say he "wrote it", as if that is what you said the last 2 times.

Maybe you should just try telling the truth.

Practice that,  is my suggestion.

Paul PREACHED that a false gospel was being PREACHED.  THAT is how Paul preached Gal.1:8.

Thanks!

 

[Behold]

12 minutes ago, BibleGuy said:

Paul PREACHED that a false gospel was being PREACHED.  THAT is how Paul preached Gal.1:8.

Thanks!

 

No, he wrote a Letter (epistle), to a group of Jesus Believers, its called the "Letter to the Galatians".

Do you know what a LETTER is?   Do you know what an EPISTLE, is?  

"Galatians", is a letter.

He didnt preach the letter, he just wrote it, and it was read........And not just to the Galatians.

Let me give you some more so that you can be sure to have enough.

Galatians 1

1 Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead;)

2 And all the brethren which are with me, unto the churches of Galatia:

See all THAT?  SENT = "unto the CHURCHES">....  Its a GREETING to many READERS, of this LETTER, Paul is sending them.   He is not PREACHING.......>He is Writing THEM a LETTER.

So, as i said,  You need to actually read a bible, and stop letting commentaries lead you astray.

Im assuming you own a bible.   So, in that case.     READ THE NT.

But more then that, you need to stop teaching heresy on a Christian forum.

[BibleGuy]

3 minutes ago, Behold said:

No, he wrote a Letter (epistle), to a group of Jesus Believers, its called the "Letter to the Galatians".

Do you know what a LETTER is?   Do you know what an EPISTLE, is?  

"Galatians", is a letter.

He didnt preach the letter, he just wrote it, and it was read........And not just to the Galatians.

Let me give you some more so that you can be sure to have enough.

Galatians 1

1 Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead;)

2 And all the brethren which are with me, unto the churches of Galatia:

See all THAT?  SENT = "unto the CHURCHES">....  Its a GREETING to many READERS, of this LETTER, Paul is sending them.   He is not PREACHING.......>He is Writing THEM a LETTER.

So, as i said,  You need to actually read a bible, and stop letting commentaries lead you astray.

Im assuming you own a bible.   So, in that case.     READ THE NT.

But more then that, you need to stop teaching heresy on a Christian forum.

"No, he wrote a Letter (epistle), to a group of Jesus Believers, its called the "Letter to the Galatians"."

And Paul PREACHES what he WRITES!  There's no inconsistency between the two.

 

"You need to actually read a bible, and stop letting commentaries lead you astray."

Who said anything about a commentary?

 

Paul's WRITINGS include his PREACHINGS!  (1Cor.1:23)

 

Let's move on from this trivial objection.

 

"you need to stop teaching heresy on a Christian forum."

HERESY includes the false teachings of false prophets (2Pe.2:1) who OPPOSE Torah (Dt.13:1-5).

Good point!

OPPOSE heresy.

OBEY Torah!

 

You DO believe Jesus, right? (Mt.5:19)

 

blessings...

 

[Behold]

22 minutes ago, BibleGuy said:

"No, he wrote a Letter (epistle), to a group of Jesus Believers, its called the "Letter to the Galatians"."

And Paul PREACHES what he WRITES!  There's no inconsistency between the two.

 

There is no inconsistency between what He writes and what he teaches.

But Paul said that Christ sent him to "Preach the Gospel".

Galatian's 1:8, that you are talking about, is neither Paul preaching, nor is it the Gospel.

The "Gospel", is the preaching of the Cross, according to Paul, but not according to you.