Nothing But The Blood

[Coliseum]

On that dark, awesome night of judgment in Egypt, God said to the believing people—not just Israel, anybody—to take the blood of the lamb and strike it on the front of the house in the form of a cross; on the lintels, and the doorposts on either side, in the form of a cross [Exodus 12:7]. And when the death Angel came to smite the land of Egypt, God said "When I see the blood, I will pass over you” [Exodus 12:13, 23]; and there was life, not death; light, not darkness; joy, not sorrow; salvation, not wrath and judgment. “When I see the blood, I will pass over you.”

You know, I can easily imagine a man seated there in the house, under the blood, and I can easily imagine his doing what some of us do all the time. “O Lord God! O God, I wonder if my repentance was repenting enough. I wonder if my faith was faith enough. I wonder if my life is good enough, and I wonder if my service is acceptable enough; and I wonder if I will make it.” So many people live in that agony of distress all of their days, and if you were to ask them, “Are you saved?” they would say, “I don’t know; maybe I didn’t repent right, maybe I didn’t believe right, maybe I didn’t confess right, maybe I haven’t lived right.” And then, maybe, living to please to God as well as you can up to the last day of your life, and then fall into some error and miss heaven. Oh, what a wretched, wretched way to live!

For you see, God says it is not by your righteousness, it is not by your repentance, it is not by your faith, it is not by your goodness, it is not by anything you. God says, “When I see the blood"—"When I see the blood, I will pass over you.” It is the blood of Christ alone that washes our sins away.

…...Pastor Criswell

"But if we walk in the light, as He is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood Jesus Christ His Son cleanseth us from all sin." (1 John 1:7).

[Coliseum]

23 minutes ago, Betha said:

Sure by GRACE we are saved....but Yashuah/Jesus had to shed His Blood/die first.....and that is what many focus on and nothing else. Is that all we need to 'believe and know' and NOTHING  else ...as the title of the thread implies ? Is there more than the Blood that will help us to be fully saved, sealed and delivered into the Kingdom of God ? ? 

Jesus' Blood, His death RECONCILES us to God Rom 5v10 - but we are still SINNERS, not yet cleansed and washed, not yet perfected to be in the presence of GOD. ...all that has to come AFTER reconciliation....for we shall be saved by His Life = which happens after the shedding of Blood.

Jesus said, "I chose you. You did not choose me." If you believe otherwise, then you must not believe he is fully sufficient to make that claim, and that you must add other works to God's perfection. Yes. His blood is that powerful, just as it was of old. You shared, "...but we are still SINNERS..." True indeed. Can you name one sinless person eligible to go to heaven except Christ alone? Jesus said, "Apart from me you can do nothing." Do you believe he meant it? If I understand nothing else, I must grasp that Jesus---and only Jesus---saves completely, for my righteousness is as filthy rags...in my best moment.

[Blood Bought 1953]

1 hour ago, Betha said:

'Nothing but the Blood' is quoted frequently by some as if there was nothing else to be considered....yet I do not see it 'in scripture'.

Have I missed or overlooked such an important statement ? because it can lead us to ignore or discard many other scriptures that have a connection to salvation.

“ Two things save us- Christ’s Blood and our Faith” 

After Christ was crucified , he literally took His Shed Blood and sprinkled it upon the Heavenly Mercy Seat that is in Heaven.......some say  that without this literal act being completed , Salvation would be impossible for anybody......I don’t know for sure about this , I have not studied it as much as I should....but If I were a  gambling man.............

The following comes from Got Questions.....

 

The phrase “blood of Christ” is used several times in the New Testament and is the expression of the sacrificial death and full atoning work of Jesus on our behalf. References to the Savior’s blood include the reality that He literally bled on the cross, but more significantly that He bled and died for sinners. The blood of Christ has the power to atone for an infinite number of sins committed by an infinite number of people throughout the ages, and all whose faith rests in that blood will be saved.

The reality of the blood of Christ as the means of atonement for sin has its origin in the Mosaic Law. Once a year, the priest was to make an offering of the blood of animals on the altar of the temple for the sins of the people. “In fact, the law requires that nearly everything be cleansed with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness” (Hebrews 9:22). But this was a blood offering that was limited in its effectiveness, which is why it had to be offered again and again. This was a foreshadowing of the “once for all” sacrifice which Jesus offered on the cross (Hebrews 7:27). Once that sacrifice was made, there was no longer a need for the blood of bulls and goats. 

The blood of Christ is the basis of the New Covenant. On the night before He went to the cross, Jesus offered the cup of wine to His disciples and said, "This cup is the new covenant in my blood, which is poured out for you” (Luke 22:20). The pouring of the wine in the cup symbolized the blood of Christ which would be poured out for all who would ever believe in Him. When He shed His blood on the cross, He did away with the Old Covenant requirement for the continual sacrifices of animals. Their blood was not sufficient to cover the sins of the people, except on a temporary basis, because sin against a holy and infinite God requires a holy and infinite sacrifice. “But those sacrifices are an annual reminder of sins, because it is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sins” (Hebrews 10:3). While the blood of bulls and goats were a “reminder” of sin, “the precious blood of Christ, a lamb without blemish or defect” (1 Peter 1:19) paid in full the debt of sin we owe to God, and we need no further sacrifices for sin. Jesus said, “It is finished” as He was dying, and He meant just that—the entire work of redemption was completed forever, “having obtained eternal redemption” for us (Hebrews 9:12).

Not only does the blood of Christ redeem believers from sin and eternal punishment, but “His blood will make our consciences pure from useless acts so we may serve the living God” (Hebrews 9:14 NCV). This means that not only are we now free from having to offer sacrifices which are “useless” to obtain salvation, but we are free from having to rely on worthless and unproductive works of the flesh to please God. Because the blood of Christ has redeemed us, we are now new creations in Christ (2 Corinthians 5:17), and by His blood we are freed from sin to serve the living God, to glorify Him, and to enjoy Him forever.
 

[Coliseum]

7 minutes ago, Betha said:

Christ Jesus is fully sufficient to save us  and only HE can do it, but people seem to forget that a 'SAVED SINNER is not yet perfect. Rom 5v10 tells us that as enemies/sinners we are first of all 'reconciled to God', not yet fully saved to be in the presence of God. Salvation is a 'process 'starting with reconciliation' which is only the ' beginning of our salvation', not the end'....we need to be cleansed of sin and returned to a state of Obedience....and that is what GRACE does for us. We are NOT reconciled and immediately re-instated in GOD's KGD in our broken state....Jesus has to create a NEW MAN in us who will BE and DO what GOD the Father requires of us. Learning to be 'conformed to Jesus' image is NOT filthy rags.

He is perfect positionally, but not in the flesh. When God looks at a saved man's heart, He sees the finished work of Christ. Why? Because God cannot look at sin. He sees Christ in us---the Savior who paid for all our sin at the cross.  We agree to disagree.

Edited December 14, 2019 by Coliseum

[Coliseum]

22 minutes ago, Betha said:

Again, you are not seeing beyond the first stage when we are saved, when we are IN CHRIST....it is similar to a Baby in the womb of it's mother...it already exists but can not be seen....so God the Father sees only Christ and not us (spiritually compared to a Human Baby). But friend, there must come a time when that NEW CREATION is BORN and takes on and takes up Life for itself to be son/daughter to God. We will not always 'be IN Christ....HE will bring many unto glory Heb 2. So because of this 'individual existence promised to us we have to be cleansed of sin during our Grace IN Christ

All this 'born again stuff we hear about NOW is way premature and not yet in force, hence all the confusion and false concepts....nor will they be instructed or corrected by the Lord, starting from the Beginning - on HIS Holy Day.

Imagine yourself in a hospital---flatlined. You are dead. Not a little bit dead, or almost dead---but dead. Nothing in you can revive you. You can do nothing until someone from the outside shocks you back to life---if it is possible. God takes a spiritually dead person and "shocks" him into life. You cannot do it, but God can. You said that salvation is a process in an earlier post, but I absolutely disagree. When God regenerates someone, that person's spirit is quickened instantly---he is shocked into life. Sanctification is a process, but not salvation. 

To really get a grasp of this picture of salvation, review the story of Exodus, where the Israelites crossed the Red Sea. On one side, they were "dead," but the grace of God divided the waters, allowing them to cross over from death to life. John speaks about it in the NT (5:24), when he says, "Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life." 

And your thinking that "All this 'born again stuff we hear about NOW is way premature and not yet in force," is plainly refuted in the whole episode of Nicodemus visiting Jesus in the night. As Jesus talked with Nicodemus, He said, “I tell you the truth, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again." 

"The phrase "born again" literally means "born from above." Nicodemus had a real need. He needed a change of his heart—a spiritual transformation. New birth, being born again, is an act of God whereby eternal life is imparted to the person who believes (2 Corinthians 5:17; Titus 3:5; 1 Peter 1:3; 1 John 2:29; 3:9; 4:7; 5:1-4, 18). John 1:12, 13 indicates that being "born again" also carries the idea of "becoming children of God" through trust in the name of Jesus Christ."

 

I know you apparently see it differently, and I am not here to argue with you or demand you believe it. The Spirit must convince you, so I will not continue with the "he said, she said" back and forth.

Edited December 14, 2019 by Coliseum

[Alive]

Betha, you are confusing salvation with an experiential process of sanctification.

Your analogy of a fetus is not apt.

This doctrine of yours comes from a lack of understanding the most basic aspect of the work of Christ.

I like to use the phrase--salvation is relocation. God took us from the 'Old Adam' and placed us 'into' the 'Second Adam'--Christ.

I like the illustration of placing a note into a book and mailing that book here and there. Everything the book experiences the note experiences. The history of the book, is the history of the note.

We were placed 'IN CHRIST' by the Father...like the note in the book. We died in Him on the Cross, were buried, we rose and we ascended. This is history. It happened as ordained by our Father.

Everything that Christ is--we are. We cannot add to this work.

The understanding must start with this as the foundation. Everything has to be consistent with the Cross and Resurrection and Ascension.

Its true that a spiritually healthy son of God is continually growing up into His likeness as His Life that we now have is in a sense 'outworking' as we learn and yield to Him. We deny the flesh and walk by the Spirit--but our 'salvation' is a done deal.

One can say that we are 'being saved' as an ongoing process because this is true in the sense that our souls are taking advantage of the reality of the 'New Life'--but we need to be careful how far we take that. What you say comes very close to a doctrine of 'works'. This can pollute our experience with the Lord and hinder our entering the rest of Christ.

All we need do is to 'experientially' abide in Him. I like the 'picture' of an easy chair. We sit back 'In Christ' and yield to the chair in a trusting attitude.

His Life that we have been given will manifest in us just as naturally as breathing--because that New Life is our New Nature. That individual will change his/her outward walk as a result.

Far too many believers are never taught these basic fundamentals and the result is a constant battle in the mind rather than a 'walk' by and in the Spirit.

God bless you.

[Justin Adams]

1 hour ago, Betha said:

All this 'born again stuff we hear about NOW is way premature and not yet in force, hence all the confusion and false concepts....nor will they be instructed or corrected by the Lord, starting from the Beginning - on HIS Holy Day.

Perhaps the 'first resurrection' is when we align with Yeshua and believe in Him. We are 'translated from the darkness into the light'. Our spirits, no longer dead, await the Consummation. Since Yeshua said, "My Kingdom is nigh unto you", that probably means that as re-born spirits into His Body we are to continue in Him as He sees fit.

[Alive]

The greatest among us is the servant among us.

This is the heart of God.

[Justin Adams]

3 minutes ago, Betha said:

I seem to understand that Believe in Yashuah and being translated into HIS Kgd  must happen well before our literal resurrection and consummation since we are to be ready and prepared without spot and wrinkle at His Coming, when we are 'born into the Father's Kingdom We are already IN Christ NOW...at least those being re-generated and having their Mind renewed .

It is sad to see the confusion and disagreement in Christianity....we have much to learn yet.

It is a ploy of the Principalities and powers etc., to keep us in the dark and fighting among ourselves. Thus we deny the Power of the Risen Lord as we are too busy defending our 'turf'.  We ought to put away childish things... but our teaching is less than desirable and thus we are hamstrung by ignorance. 'my people are destroyed thru lack of knowledge'.

[Justin Adams]

...and so it drags on. Powerless people pretending Yeshua's Spirit was not for today and the evangelising of His salvation. We will NEVER be perfect, but that is not the issue. Are we obediently carrying the Gospel to the unsaved, or are we burrowing into theology in order to find an excuse for little or no action?

Edited December 14, 2019 by Justin Adams