AnonymousEcho Posted January 19, 2020 Group: Nonbeliever Followers: 2 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 21 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/19/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted January 19, 2020 (edited) . Edited October 13, 2020 by AnonymousEcho . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steward George Posted January 19, 2020 Group: Steward Followers: 110 Topic Count: 10,465 Topics Per Day: 1.25 Content Count: 27,780 Content Per Day: 3.33 Reputation: 15,481 Days Won: 129 Joined: 06/30/2001 Status: Online Birthday: 09/21/1971 Steward Share Posted January 19, 2020 Shalom AnonymousEcho, Welcome to Worthy Christian Forums. Please feel free to browse around and get to know everyone. If you have any questions please don't hesitate to ask. As soon as you post a few times and after they are approved, it'll tell us that you are "real" person and not a "bot", you'll be free to post throughout our forums and join our chat rooms. Forgive us for this minor inconvenience, however, we've had issues in the past with Spammers! This is a short tutorial video of how to get started with Worthy Christian Forums. As soon as you get out of Newbie status, you'll be able to add your profile picture. You may be interested in reading how WCF functions, and how the forums are set up, and other neat tricks to the forums.  Read our insights into WCF. Let me share a little bit of my vision for the ministry in a parable. Let's say I'm throwing a big party and am inviting the world to the party (the forums) and I want everyone to have a great time, eating (reading through posts being fed), drinking (being encouraged to walk in His Word), and having fellowship with one another. In Israel, we have Shabbat meals -- and whenever you have 2 Jews -- you have 3 opinions -- it's GREAT to be opinionated. I encourage discussions ... but during our Shabbat meals ... we never ever get to the point in disagreements whereby food is being tossed and seriously yelling takes place! And if someone comes into the meal ... and starts throwing food ... and yells at everyone -- what do you suppose the head of the Shabbat meal will do? He'll escort those causing problems out of the house! Why? Because the whole reason for the gathering was to learn from one another ... to have a great time of fellowship!  Some people like to constantly throw food and yell ... they won't last on Worthy ... because they missed the point of the party ... it's a prequel to the true party -- the Lamb's Supper!  All I'm trying to provide is a place to allow true fellowship ... and discussions in love ... in the hopes it will be a catalyst for true REVIVAL based on REPENTANCE! I hope you have a blessed time at Worthy! Please use the REPORT POST feature (which can be found at the top right of all posts) any posts that you believe should be reviewed!  We strive to have ALL members abide by our Terms of Service. While this message is "automated", please know that if you have any questions, feel free to shoot me off a private message which can be found at the top right to the left of your name. Your brother in the Lord with much agape love, George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tzephanyahu Posted January 20, 2020 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 69 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 1,625 Content Per Day: 0.79 Reputation: 2,033 Days Won: 1 Joined: 09/10/2018 Status: Offline Popular Post Share Posted January 20, 2020 Shalom @AnonymousEcho First of all, welcome to the forum! Now, this is quite a situation you find yourself in, isn't it! Let me try to help, Yahweh willing. There are three possibilities behind this "ability".... Origin: Occult Origin: Yahweh Origin: Other Origin:Occult We cannot ignore that fact of the strong presence of witchcraft in your youth. In the past, I worked for a ministry exposing the occult and so I am aware that sometimes incantations over the young or even submissions of young to certain entities can take place. This can have repercussions in later life Now, don't worry! If the above is the case, you can prayer to the Most High that every unclean spiritual tie, link or ability that was imposed upon you as a child will be severed, removed and cleaned up from you, in the name of the Lord Yeshua (Jesus Christ), Son of the Yahweh, by His Holy Spirit. Declare thereafter that you dedicate your spirit, soul and heart into Yahweh's only.  Remember, you are asking and declaring this by the authority of His name and not your own - so have confidence and boldness. Origin: Yahweh It's possible that Yahweh has you in His hands on this matter and will use this ability for His Kingdom, His glory. You speak of instances similar to that of the prophets of old, and such abilities were prophesied to come back. By the way, a "seer" is what prophets were known as in ancient times, which you can find in the Bible. I would pray, each day, that Yahweh would guide you in this ability and help you to understand what He is trying to tell you. Ask Him for Wisdom and Understanding each day (even when you are not in a 'cycle'). Do this, even if it feels empty at first or like a habit. He will reward you in due time - but it won't necessarily be quickly! Practically, if you find that you don't have enough time and you're a "go, go, go" person, perhaps one lesson to learn from all of this is to MAKE time. Easier said than done, I know. However, He is our God, the Great King, and we should treat Him as so. Perhaps He wants to slow you down and get you focused on Him more, and this is the "rod of discipline" He is using... Occult: Other No idea. I just wanted to make you aware that there could always be another option. As for what that might be though...No idea. Conclusion I advise you to pray against the possible occultic origin, as outlined above, with sincerity and seriousness. Before doing so, why not post a request in the Prayer Request section on this forum? It can only help! Don't worry or fear these little demons and forces of darkness. Fear only Yahweh. Now, with the confidence you have after praying the above, if the ability still remains, try to quieten your heart and listen to Him. Look at your situation and visions as a parable, that is - poetically, objectively and symbolically. What "feels" like the message? Don't look at it literally, but symbolically as a whole. Stay in the Word throughout the week, as much as possible, particularly within the prophetic books. This will ensure your visions and understanding of them have a good solid backing of Scripture - which will serve almost as Rosetta Stone of interpretation and guidance. Practically, make time for the Lord. I personally observe the Sabbath and ensure that at least one whole day is all about Him and His Word, but that's not always a possibility for everyone. But find a way to make time, beyond church attendance.  In the evenings/mornings/afternoons - just find time to dedicate to Him or His Word in your busy schedule. Do it as if it was an appointment with a King, or just to thank the "Principal Supplier of Your Daily Life" - because that's exactly who He is. Now if you dedicate more time to Him, and the visions are NOT your gift, they will eventually stop. But if they ARE your gift, the time you dedicate to Him will help you finely tune in to clear messages from Him, rather than the current messy jumble of noise. I hope that helps my friend. Love & Shalom 1 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jostler Posted January 20, 2020 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 25 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,679 Content Per Day: 1.39 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 16 Joined: 01/19/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted January 20, 2020 I could not add any advice I consider better than what you were just offered by Tzephanyahu. I happen to work with people who have similar experiences, and God is using both them, AND gifts and abilities that in some cases (many) were victims of satanic attempts to divert those abilities to the service of his kingdom, literally from infancy. I don't pretend for a moment i have complete understanding. But i don't struggle to believe you..at all. I know that when He made it clear He was calling me to a corner of His harvest field that involved people who do experience life in ways similar to you, it DROVE me into the Word to find the Biblical basis for it...and in the process totally upended a lot of theology i though I had nailed. As our Lord and King walks you through this, please do give yourself to the study of the Word. Ask Him to teach you about what is of Him and what is not....and what you are intended to do with it.  He is THE Teacher....the superlative of all teachers....and has promised to guide us into all Truth, revealing the things of Jesus to our understanding. The written Word of God is the final authority pertaining to all things, and often the ONLY authority on spiritual things. To allow it to stand as judge in all things we must be familiar with it.  If any part of this is not of Him, you can trust Him to reveal that and purge you of it. Whatever is of Him, He will explain, hone, enhance and teach you the use of. If your call and future are anything close to what I think it might be, well, it would be an honor to walk with you.  We're Not Afraid (link) 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeauJangles Posted January 20, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 43 Topic Count: 229 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 10,900 Content Per Day: 2.92 Reputation: 12,145 Days Won: 68 Joined: 02/13/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/14/1954 Share Posted January 20, 2020 On 1/18/2020 at 6:49 PM, AnonymousEcho said: So, that was my background. Here is my problem: Whenever I slip into this "cycle" of feeling like I'm tapped into another realm or dimension or whatever, it takes over my whole life.  25 minutes ago, Jostler said: I don't pretend for a moment i have complete understanding. But i don't struggle to believe you..at all. Hello friend, I didn't find it necessary to quote the entire post you've submitted before Tzephanyahu, Jostler and I came to an immediate comprehension of your apparent problem. It's far more common than you realize and yes, a frightening experience to find yourself in this sort of bondage. You need deliverance from demonic oppression if you've come to Christ Jesus as Saviour and Lord. This is a very serious matter in which to undertake, and you need to make some decisions in the matter.  The devil can no longer possess your spirit if he previously had. But, he can cause extreme havoc within your soul. Since this is a personal issue brought into the light, I feel privacy for the freedom you desperately need should be taken to a PM. Besides several of us who have some good knowledge studying the aspect of demonology, it would be better discussing the specifics with you in this manner. Feel free to contact one of us. God bless you, brother. Welcome to Worthy. Shalom, David/BeauJangles Let your light so shine ~ Matthew 5:16 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resurrection Priest Posted January 21, 2020 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 467 Content Per Day: 0.29 Reputation: 153 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/20/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted January 21, 2020 May I recommend the videos by Neil T. Anderson. Many are FREE on YouTube. He has 50 years experience helping people - Christians and soontobe Christians, with demon possession, or harassment, or just temptation followed by accusation. I have several of his books and can strongly recommend them. You do not have to put up with the harassment. You have authority "in Christ" to command all Enemies of God and of Christ, to leave your presence. (You must do so out loud. The demons cannot read your thoughts.) You must learn who you are "in Him". This will give you confidence. Learn first. Then take your authority. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyn C Posted January 22, 2020 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 30 Topic Count: 267 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 13,219 Content Per Day: 3.49 Reputation: 8,500 Days Won: 12 Joined: 12/21/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/06/1947 Share Posted January 22, 2020 On ‎1‎/‎19‎/‎2020 at 1:19 PM, AnonymousEcho said:  So, that was my background. Here is my problem: Whenever I slip into this "cycle" of feeling like I'm tapped into another realm or dimension or whatever, it takes over my whole life. I've prayed and asked the Lord to guide me and give me wisdom on how to deal with this matter, and all I hear is for me to trust Him and that He is leading me. Echo Hi Echo, Thank you for sharing your story. Now I see that you were `drawn toward the spirit realm.` You have chosen by your will (ignorantly) to be drawn towards the spirit realm. `From then on I always had nightmares, visions of demons while awake, and I knew things I never would have known because I was told, by demons. How did I know they were demons? I didn't. I didnt figure it out until I was much much older and looked back and realized what it all was. Anyhow, from an early age I was drawn toward the spirit realm and would see things in it, I'd talk to things ...` My advice to you is - CONFESS - to God that you gave your will to these demons which harass you. REPENT - to God and that you desire to turn around and not be drawn there or have these demons control you. ASK FOR FORGIVENESS - by God for allowing these demons into your life. Pray the blood of Jesus would cover you and protect you from demonic interference. RECEIVE HIS FORGIVENESS - When the demons try to return plead the blood of Jesus and tell them you are a child of God. Keep at it for they will try and trick you, but remember that Jesus has won the victory over them and He is the stronger. praying, Marilyn. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousEcho Posted June 17, 2020 Group: Nonbeliever Followers: 2 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 21 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/19/2020 Status: Offline Author Share Posted June 17, 2020 Hey all, I know it's been awhile since I originally made this post, but I'd like to just follow-up with you guys. I've read all of your comments and appreciate each one. As a child, I was ignorant and didn't understand what I was talking to. As I've gotten even closer to God (especially in these past 3 months), and been reading in the Bible where the Holy Spirit leads me, I'm beginning to understand it all. I can't say I fully get it, because I talk to God about it frequently and he hasn't revealed the "purpose" of it all. But I know for a fact He's leading me (he told me so!). Also, I've prayed about these issues a lot in the past and also recently, and the "gifts" have never gone away. I talk to God every day, and it's AMAZING. He has been showing me SO many things and I am still having dreams, visions, and feelings. I still see auras. But I'm very happy to say that God is making things CLEAR to me. Clearer than ever. About...5 months ago I suffered a terrible, awful demonic attack which I won't detail for ya, but let's just say that God can really turn a MESS into a message. I've messed up before but God has been teaching me to recognize HIS voice among all of the other voices. I'm still bothered all the time by the presence of other spiritual beings, but God has been guiding me and leading me to have a peace throughout ALL of it. It's crazy - I never thought I'd get here. Like i said...I still don't understand the "cycles" or whatever they are, but I'm hopeful that God is leading me and I'm just leaving it up to him. I wanted to thank you all for your prayers because I DO believe they have made a difference. Thanks guys! Echo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coliseum Posted June 17, 2020 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 14 Topic Count: 133 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 1,123 Content Per Day: 0.66 Reputation: 2,055 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/07/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted June 17, 2020 (edited) On 1/18/2020 at 9:49 PM, AnonymousEcho said: Hi, Don't know if this is the proper place to post this, but I wanted to get the perspective of some other fellow Christians on a matter. It's a long story, so if you want to read it, brace yourself. From the beginning: I've been extremely spiritually sensitive since I was a little girl. Raised in a Christian home, although I never accepted Jesus as my savior until I became an adult. Anyhow, here's some background: I was raised in a Christian home, as I said, but I also came from a family with a long line of witches. Now, growing up, I never knew a single thing about my family history, I only knew that we went to church on Sundays and we praised the Lord. But ever since I was little, like literally 3 years old, I was tormented by demons. According to my mother, when I was like 2 or 3 I awoke in the night and she came to get me and I told her that I had just seen my great grandpa in my room. She thought I was a silly kid - turns out he had just died. From then on I always had nightmares, visions of demons while awake, and I knew things I never would have known because I was told, by demons. How did I know they were demons? I didn't. I didnt figure it out until I was much much older and looked back and realized what it all was. Anyhow, from an early age I was drawn toward the spirit realm and would see things in it, I'd talk to things (not knowing what they were), and Id know things about people. I also saw colors around people ever since I could remember, and it wasnt until I was a teenager that I realized that not everybody sees "colors" around people and that the colors were, in fact, auras, that correlated with the person. Also, ever since I was young, Id go through these cycles where one day I'd be living life, here in the physical realm (seeing auras yeah but mostly in the physical realm), and then BOOM out of nowhere I'd slip into what is some other realm. No, I don't disappear or anything weird, but when I slip into this "cycle" of another realm, it's as if the physical world around me exists, but it's like in the background. I get this heightened awareness of everything around me - everything people think, I know what people are doing even though I'm not there, I can feel and see the energy of everything around me and yes, I see beings (angels and demons) going about and doing their thing and I hear their conversations. Now, like I said this "slipping into the cycle" has been happening to me since as long as I can remember, and as a child I thought it was simply part of existing and that everybody experienced it. Boy was I wrong. Once I was a teenager and these "cycles" began to bother me and I finally told my mother, she was terrified, afraid that I had slipped into some sort of witchlike nonesense - but I hadn't. She feared that I was following in the footsteps of my grandmothers: Seeing auras, predicting the future and knowing people's thoughts were apparently things they did using witchcraft. BUT, I didnt even know about my family history let alone tried to go after witchcraft, this was just who I was. I had no idea that anybody in my family was EVER anything like me, and I had felt very alone and secluded. Now after growing up and I am an adult now, I recognize that there are many things in the spirit realm, good things and bad things. I have learned how to filter things out and have learned the difference between WHAT exactly, I'm talking to. However, here is the problem: I can't get out. I will literally be going about my life, staying busy, and all of a sudden something triggers me to slip out of this physical realm we all exist in and I'm back into what feels like a completely different realm, and it can last for weeks, before I simply slip back into reality again. I can't control it. No, I'm not schizophrenic, in case anybody was wondering, I have no mental disorders  (and I only say that because I know that SOME people will likely think that I am simply off in the head). Here's the thing, my whole life I could feel people's intentions, I know their motives, I can look at a person one time and instantly tell you what type of person they are and sometimes things that have happened in their past - I've seen into the future and predicted things. I'm not patting myself on the back, in fact - it's very frustrating. I'm constantly bombarded by the emotions of other people, I hear their thoughts, feel their feelings, it's exhausting - and it's real, as I have accidentally answered questions I thought people asked me - but they actually just THOUGHT of asking - and then they get all freaked out. So, that was my background. Here is my problem: Whenever I slip into this "cycle" of feeling like I'm tapped into another realm or dimension or whatever, it takes over my whole life. I've prayed and asked the Lord to guide me and give me wisdom on how to deal with this matter, and all I hear is for me to trust Him and that He is leading me. But the problem is that I have a lot of things to do - I have work, school, a lot on my plate. And when these "cycles" hit me it's close to impossible to force myself to ignore them. Whenever I try to push through and ignore all of the craziness going on around me (you know, things floating around in the air, things talking to me) I feel physically ILL. I get nauseous, overheated, a massive headache and extremely dizzy to the point I might pass out when I try to force myself to ignore it all and get my work done. The only way I avoid the sickness is to give in - stop trying to ignore it. I've seen angels (which scared the daylights out of me, but in a humble way), but also many other things when I stop ignoring it. It's inhibiting my productivity... at least that's how I feel. I'm a "go, go, go" person, and when something comes along and gets in the way of my incredibly planned out and structured routine, it makes me very upset and nervous. Somehow, even when this happens I KNOW God helps me to somehow get things done because I'll have done nothing and somehow things just work out for me. So I know God is with me. But I wish I had more control over it, or just more insight. Why is this happening? Why cant I control it? Has anybody else ever experienced something like this? Another thing: Whenever I'm about to go into one of these "cycles", I usually start feeling sort of....off a few days prior. I.e. The world just starts feeling different, sometimes I'll have some sort of dream and wake up in a cycle. Sometimes the dreams are predictions of things that happen, and sometimes they are dreams of something that is happening to somebody else that I know. I also usually feel this pull, almost as strong as gravity (I kid you not) to go out and be in nature. Something about the energy of nature makes me feel calm (it is God's creation, after all). But either way it's bombarding, and causes me much stress. I've gone to prayer, and had people tell me that I'm a "seer", but that word sounded pretty secular to me. I've had pastors pray for me as well as other prayer warriors due to the bombardment with demonic activity... But I just wish I could understand better. I've tried to look into people who are like me, but as it turns out, most of those people that I find are secular, nonchristians, treating it as some sort of "power". I don't feel powerful, I feel out of control.  Any thoughts? Insight? People who have experienced something similar? Thanks guys, Echo Whenever a person says, " I am saved," it is truly a miracle that can only come from God. We see ourselves totally apart from this world, and our hope is that others see us likewise. So believing you is not difficult. I came from a Mathematics and Physics background, and no one found anything unimaginable, though in the physical world---probable or improbable. I had once an episode that was so bizarre and other-worldly, I did not know how to receive it. So I tried covering it up, putting it away, "forgetting" about it. After sharing it with my genius friend, he told me something very useful: "Why Coliseum are you trying to resist it by distancing yourself from it? Why are you fighting it? The more you do that, the longer it lingers. Instead, immerse yourself into it until it reaches its conclusion so that you know what you are dealing with." He did not tell me to avoid it, stop it, resist it, slow it down, etc. No. He said to quicken the pace, and pursue it to its end. There are many ways to solve problems that God gives us. What do we do if we cannot solve it all at once? Do we put our lives on hold until the problem is solved? We could, but we would miss out on everything life has to offer until we found a solution. What if we came back to the problem after we let some time lapse? The reason we may want to do that is to learn other things during our separation from the problem so that we have more knowledge at our disposal in how to handle it. A pastor I deeply respected told me that some know the answer before the question is given, and some know the answer after it is given. But ultimately both know the answer. Some go through their entire lives without even understanding the question much less having an answer. You have identified yourself as someone who has information before the pieces of the puzzle come together. What a gift. There was once a Mathematician who knew he had a severe problem of seeing more people than were actually present. At first, he could not deal with it, but eventually he came to terms. The day came when he was being offered the Nobel Prize for his work. "May I ask," he inquired, "are there three people in front of me, or only one offering me the Prize"? When he was told only one, he laughed to say that he appreciated that it did not require three, after all, because the Prize did not need to be given in thirds, but all at once. So he had a very peculiar problem, but he solved it. He learned to adopt a sense of humor so that it did not overwhelm him. In a much less dramatic way, we too have strange pieces of the puzzle to solve in our lives, and we must choose the best way forward to handle it. As a matter of observation, isn't it interesting that as many here provided thoughts and gave advice, they were as different as the people who gave them. So there may not be a solution that fits all---even if the circumstances were identical. We must wrestle in our lives, just as Jacob wrestled with the Angel of the Lord until daybreak---never giving up until he received a blessing! God bless you sister. Edited June 17, 2020 by Coliseum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prycejosh1987 Posted July 12, 2020 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,176 Content Per Day: 0.84 Reputation: 126 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/07/2020 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/29/1987 Share Posted July 12, 2020 Anything that doesnt correspond with scripture is not of God. God would not doing something that his word doesnt agree with. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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