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2 minutes ago, charisenexcelsis said:

Psalm 29 New American Standard Bible (NASB)

A Psalm of David.

29 Ascribe to the Lord, O ^[a]sons of the mighty,
Ascribe to the Lord glory and strength.
² Ascribe to the Lord the glory ^[b]due to His name;
Worship the Lord in ^[c]holy array.

³ The voice of the Lord is upon the waters;
The God of glory thunders,
The Lord is over ^[d]many waters.
⁴ The voice of the Lord is powerful,
The voice of the Lord is majestic.
⁵ The voice of the Lord breaks the cedars;
Yes, the Lord breaks in pieces the cedars of Lebanon.
⁶ He makes Lebanon skip like a calf,
And Sirion like a young wild ox.
⁷ The voice of the Lord hews out ^[e]flames of fire.
⁸ The voice of the Lord ^[f]shakes the wilderness;
The Lord shakes the wilderness of Kadesh.
⁹ The voice of the Lord makes the deer to calve
And strips the forests bare;
And in His temple everything says, “Glory!”

The word "voice," is found 7 times here (V 3, 4, 7; 8; 9), The word voice is found 522 times in Scripture. The first occurrence being the voice of the Lord in Eden. Paul says there are many kinds of voices in the world.

The psalm has nothing to do with people hearing the voice of God in; 

Matthew 3:17, And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

Matthew 17:5, While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him.

Or the fact that God sends messengers throughout the Earth who report to Him of all that they find in the Earth that goes on (Dan. 10:13-21; 11;1; 12:1; Zech.1:7-11; 6:1-8; Matt. 18:10-11; Heb. 2:4). God does not take care of every detail of His vast business in all the kingdoms of the universe. His agents help Him and they are found in every part of the universe on missions for God. Certain angels are responsible to God for carrying out His will in almost infinite detail concerning the billions of suns, moons, planets and all free moral agents on them.

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6 minutes ago, charisenexcelsis said:

 

So, you decide that in that case, his eyes are not his eyes. You decide that is a metaphor, yet the others are not.

I never decided or said or even thought that God's eyes are not His?? Stop telling lies to cover your ignorance of the scriptures. 

 God has so constructed the Bible that no one passage contains all the truth on any one subject and no passage contradicts another, whether it is on the same subject or not (Isa. 28:9-13) " V, 9Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.
10, For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:
11, For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people.
12, To whom he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear.
13, But the word of the LORD was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.

All Scriptures on a subject must be gathered and harmonized  with themselves and with all Scriptures on other subjects, before the whole truth can be fully understood. No "Scripture is of any private interpretation"; that is, no Scripture should be isolated from all others and understood by itself as being the whole truth on a subject in total disregard to all other passages on the same subject

(2 Peter 1:19-20, V. 19, We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: V. 20, Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

Two or three plain passages are required to establish any single truth, and if there are more than this number on a subject all must bear testimony to the same thing and none of them must contradict themselves or any other passages on any other subject (Num. 35:30; Deut. 17:6;19:15; Matt. 18:16; 2 Cor. 13:1). We are told to rightly divide the word of truth ( 2 Tim. 2:15) and compare "spiritual with spiritual" (1 Cor. 2:13).
For example, when this is done to the very passages that are used to teach unconditional security they will be found to be in harmony with the many hundreds of passages that plainly teach conditional security. On the other hand, these many hundreds of passages cannot possibly be harmonized with the wrong interpretations of the few that are used to teach unconditional security. To teach unconditional security is to leave an irreparable breach between two sets of Scriptures, but to teach conditional security is to have perfect harmony between all Scriptures.

When you have learnt to do this, you may finally understand God's revelation of Himself and the fact that we are in fact created in His image and in His likeness, and when He speaks with His voice he can be heard.

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2 minutes ago, charisenexcelsis said:

Again, you decide when it is a metaphor. And man did not always hear clearly the voice of God. God holds the expanse of the heavens in his hand, But the universe is space more than matter and cannot be held by a fleshly hand. On every side, you are forced to resort to the metaphor. Don't you see the pattern.

Here's the pattern. Sadly you do not believe the Word of God. 

 

How can we tell if the language is literal of figurative? This is one of the most simple questions to answer. Any man or woman with ordinary intelligence between the two ways of expressing the truth. The one fundamental rule to determine whether language is literal or figurative is this.
Take every statement in the Bible as literal when it is at all possible and where it is clear that it is literal, otherwise, it is figurative. In other words, what cannot be literal must be figurative. The subject matter itself as expressed in human language will always make this clear. One must be sure the language if figurative before giving it a figurative meaning. If it seems hard to determine by the words of the subject matter, then Scriptures on the same subject will clear up the difficulty. There are always plain literal statements in the Bible proving every doctrine, so if a figurative statement is found in the Bible on the same  subject, explain the figurative passage with the literal passages.
Remember, no figure of speech ever does away with the literal truth, but merely expresses it in another way. Figures of speech are of two main kinds; first, those involving only a word as in Gal. 2:9 where Peter, James, and John are called "pillars" of the church; second, those involving thought expressed in several words, or sentences, as the parable, allegory, symbol, type, riddle, fable, enigma, etc. With a knowledge of the general plan of God, what the Scriptures are, and how to interpret them, we can study the Bible and its eternal plan for mankind. Without a general knowledge of the entire plan of God for mankind we are faced with contradictions, opposition against God's Word which tries to turn men away from the truths God wants men to get in order for them to be blessed."
 
Every person who has any knowledge of these forms of human expression should understand the Bible just as he does any other books. All these forms of human expression were used by God in giving His revelations of all things and of Himself. He used them for the same purpose as men do, to convey literal truths. All men can understand the Bible alike on the same grounds on which they understand other books where these forms of human language are used if they will be sensible about the Bible as they are with other books.
 
Men do not SPIRITUALISE other books or make every literal statement in the SYMBOLIC and MYSTICAL, and there is no excuse for us to do this with Bible truths.
When such human language is used in other books, men do not differ so much. They do not make them mean anything that they want the to mean. They are sensible with the writings of others and put forth every effort to get the intended idea of the author, but when it comes to the Bible the intent of God as plainly stated means nothing to the average person. Just so each person can change and interpret to suit himself, he thinks that his interpretation must be the truth of the Bible.
This method of interpretation is nothing less than satanic opposition against God which tries to turn men away from the truths God wants them to get in order for them to be blessed. If Satan can succeed in his purpose, God and His Word will be discredited, and men will pay little heed to what is written. Men will not be held guiltless for this attitude.

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1 minute ago, charisenexcelsis said:

So his eyes do roam around the earth. Are they still connected to this body? Your doctrine of the body of God is both grossly fleshly and ultimately silly. You may continue your monologue if you wish.

Sorry, Again with you lies. I never said His eyes roam the earth? I said God sends His messengers throughout the Earth who report to Him of all that they find in the Earth that goes on (Dan. 10:13-21; 11;1; 12:1; Zech.1:7-11; 6:1-8; Matt. 18:10-11; Heb. 2:4). God does not take care of every detail of His vast business in all the kingdoms of the universe. His agents help Him and they are found in every part of the universe on missions for God. Certain angels are responsible to God for carrying out His will in almost infinite detail concerning the billions of suns, moons, planets and all free moral agents on them.

If God is everywhere as you believe, why would God have to GO DOWN  to see about Sodom and Gomorrah?

 

Gen. 18:20-21, V. 20, And the LORD said, Because the cry of Sodom and Gomorrah is great, and because their sin is very grievous; 

V. 21, I will go down now, and see whether they have done altogether according to the cry of it, which is come unto me; and if not, I will know.

 

If God is everywhere and all knowing, why would God GO DOWN and see whether they have done altogether according to the cry of it, and if not, I WILL KNOW? When did He know for sure it was as He was informed?

He knew after He went down to see for Himself, that's when.

 

You may continue with your lies, rather than studying the scriptures and opening your mind to the truth.

[George]

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