The Seven Tribulations of Revelation

[darkmatter]

Not sure whether I'm pre-wrath or post-trib according to what is commonly defined.

Here is what I believe:

"After the tribulation" of those days is simply referring to the last tribulation which is on the 7th Trumpet/7th Plague. Kindly note "AFTER the TRIBULATION" of those days, points to several tribulations that happened before it. There are a total of 7 tribulations, in which the 7th one is the great tribulation, the most devastating one of all.

The 7 tribulations are actually the combination of the trumpets and plagues as I believe they go together and not separate events. The trumpets describe celestial events that will harm the earth. The plagues describe what will happen to people and living things physically after those celestial events.

I'm not going to quote the verses as I want to make it as short as possible.

1st Tribulation: 1st trumpet / 1st plague

Hundreds of thousands of iron rich meteorite fireballs fell to the the earth that lit up the whole sky. A third of the earth's trees and vegetation were set ablaze. Think of the recent fire that devastated Australia and California, but only this time, it is a worldwide catastrophe. Houses and properties were burned down and people suffered severe burns because of the fire. Meteorites that fell into the sea and lakes, reacted with the water and turned it into rusty blood red due to its iron-rich content.

2nd Tribulation: 2nd trumpet / 2nd plague

A huge iron-rich asteroid fireball as large as a mountain fell into the ocean which, upon impact, killed a third of ocean life and destroyed a third of the world's shipping lines. Due to its iron-rich content, a third of the ocean turned rusty blood red and due to an unknown hazardous toxic chemical substance in the asteroid, it killed all life in the oceans. It's an extinction-level event of all life forms in the oceans.

3rd Tribulation: 3rd trumpet / 3rd plague

An iron-rich blazing comet fell to the earth, specifically in freshwater sources where we get our from - reservoirs, rivers, lakes, etc. This comet is concentrated with Hydrocyanic acid or simply Cyanide. It made a third of the freshwater sources poisonous and whoever drank this, died of poisoning. Many people died of this cyanide poisoning. It also reacted with the water and turned it into rusty blood red due to its rich iron content.

At this stage, water and food shortages will happen and famine will be widespread.

Google cyanide (HCN) content of comets.

4th Tribulation:4th trumpet / 4th plague

The sun suddenly developed huge sunspots. There was an electromagnetic disturbance in the sun which made it dimmed about a third. The day turned dark and the reflected lights from the moon and planets were also dimmed about a third. Then suddenly, the sun brightened so intensely that it scorched people. The heat was so intense that people cursed the name of the Lord.

Google sunspots, solar flares, starspots, and superflares.

5th Tribulation, 1st WOE: 5th trumpet / 5th plague

Apollyon, the messenger, has the key to the portal (bottomless pit or a pit without a bottom, a wormhole). When he opened the portal, alien beings invaded the earth. They were so numerous that they looked like thick black smoke that came out of a furnace. They covered the whole sky and the sun, and the earth was plunged into darkness. They had a king over them whose name is Apollyon and they did whatever he command them to do. He is the rider of the white horse who was given a crown and a bow, conquering and to conquer. He commanded the horde not to kill but to torture men for five months, but only to those who had the mark of the beast. The torture was so unbearable that men bit their tongue in extreme agony and wished to die instead but death will elude them.

6th Tribulation, 2nd WOE: 6th trumpet / 6th plague

The four angels of the Euphrates were released to gather a great alien army that numbered 200 million strong. The great Euphrates river was dried up to prepare the armies of the East (ASIA) and the rest of the whole world. All the armies of the world, great and small, were present at Armageddon. The fighting ensued and a third of the world's armies were wiped out.

After this, the false Christ comes out of the temple to battle with the two witnesses as not even the whole armies of the world can defeat them (Rev 11:7).

They fought hard and long, but eventually, the false Messiah overpowered them and killed them. People around the world looked at them with amazement, but with contempt because they tormented the world with the plagues. People around the world celebrated this victory and gave gifts to one another and said, "Who is like the beast? Who can make war against him?

The two witnesses were seen in the world as some kind of a super-villain with superpowers that can control celestial bodies. They are invincible as anyone who wishes to harm them will turn into a pile ash as they unleash fire that comes out from their mouths. Only the beast has the power to defeat them.
 

7th Tribulation, 3rd and last WOE, Matthew 24: 7th trumpet / 7th plague

The catching up or the rapture happens at this stage because this tribulation is the GREAT TRIBULATION. If not stopped, this is the extinction of mankind and all life on earth. A severe earthquake will happen that every mountain and island was moved from its place. The earthquake was so severe that all the cities of the nations collapsed. We can see a mega monster tsunami happening at this event. On top of this, huge hailstones weighing a hundred pounds fell to the earth. And, also on top of this, the blue sky receded like a scroll when rolled up which indicates a disappearing atmosphere exposing people to radiation and intense heat from space. Breathing air will gradually disappear and people will be gasping for air. This is not a local event, where only the earth is affected, but the whole UNIVERSE. For the stars will no longer shine and the heavens will be shaken. Everything will be destroyed in fervent heat (2 Peter 3:12). No one will survive this GREAT TRIBULATION if not cut short.

At this stage the 1st resurrection will occur and the dead in Christ will be raptured first, then, those who remained alive (survivors) will be ruptured next in heaven. We know for certain that the rapture is coming near when we see the two witnesses lie dead on the street. We count 3 1/2 days, then, the two witnesses will stand up on the 1st resurrection and be caught up in heaven, in an instant, in a twinkling of an eye. We will all be raptured in an instant together with them in the clouds.

After this, the Lord, the Most High, will cut short this GREAT TRIBULATION, for the sake of his elect, the sealed ones of the Holy Spirit, the 144,000 Israelite. For they must be purified in the furnace of this Great Tribulation. Then, the Lord will send his angels to gather them to Him.

After this, the WRATH OF THE LAMB comes, together with his ruptured saints to wipe out what remains of the world's army.

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The two witnesses will deliver these tribulations when the beast (the false Christ) will sit on the throne of the 3rd temple of Jerusalem. The false Messiah will persecute the true Christians during these trying times because they simply refused to worship him and take his currency which is his mark. Their properties will be taken away from them and they can no longer buy anything. No one will employ them or buy their goods or services without the mark. Christians must endure for 3.5 years with nothing at all. Your family, friends, Christian brothers and sisters, and pastors will betray you and have you put to death or thrown in prison. I believe the one-world religion will be Christianity for the beast will claim that he is the Christ and will deceive many with his power and miracles. 

The two witnesses will warn people not to harm the true Christians and to repent of their murders, theft, idolatry, devil worship, witchcraft, and etc. Otherwise, they will suffer the consequences of the tribulations - all those who took the mark of the beast and worship the devil. 

"An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth. You kill one of us, I'll wipe you out with fire that comes out from my breath and unleash terrible plagues that only exist in your nightmares".


 

Edited February 11, 2020 by darkmatter
Some changes

[The Light]

You have the tribulation happening during the wrath of God. The tribulation is the 1st six seals. Then Jesus will come in the clouds and send His angels to gather the elect from heaven and earth, which occurs after the tribulation.

Matt 24

²⁹ Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

³⁰ And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

³¹ And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

 

Rev 6

¹² And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;

¹³ And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.

¹⁴ And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.

¹⁵ And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;

¹⁶ And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:

¹⁷ For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

The seventh seal begins the wrath of God which includes all the 7 trumpets. The trumpets ARE NOT the tribulation.

[darkmatter]

I don't think Revelation should be read consecutively. It has to match the context. Otherwise, you'll see events happening twice or even thrice which doesn't make any sense at all. Page 1 of Revelation is not necessarily the story continuation of page 2. It has to match context by context, revelation by revelation, and not page by page. Otherwise, you'll see raptures happening here and there, you'll read Christians in heaven already and other Christians left behind on earth to face the wrath of the Devil. You'll also see the multitudes in white robes suddenly appearing in the storyline out of nowhere. It's all a confusing mess if we read it consecutively, page by page, and not context by context, revelation by revelation.

The Seven seals are merely the overview of the 7 trumpets and 7 plagues. They are not 3 separate events where the seven seals will happen first, then the trumpets, and then the plagues. It's way too overkill.

As I have mentioned, the 7 trumpets and the 7 plagues are the same events. The trumpets describe celestial events that will harm the earth. The plagues describe what will happen to people and living things physically after those celestial events. These events are in the hands of the two witnesses who were given power by the Lord, just like Moses. These 7 trumpets / 7 plagues are the wrath of the Lord Almighty which is already the tribulation, in which the 7th one is the GREAT TRIBULATION where the whole Universe will be annihilated. It was stopped only because of the elect who were left behind - the 144,000 Jews from all12 tribes.

[Revelation Man]

2 hours ago, darkmatter said:

I don't think Revelation should be read consecutively. It has to match the context. Otherwise, you'll see events happening twice or even thrice which doesn't make any sense at all. Page 1 of Revelation is not necessarily the story continuation of page 2. It has to match context by context, revelation by revelation, and not page by page. Otherwise, you'll see raptures happening here and there, you'll read Christians in heaven already and other Christians left behind on earth to face the wrath of the Devil. You'll also see the multitudes in white robes suddenly appearing in the storyline out of nowhere. It's all a confusing mess if we read it consecutively, page by page, and not context by context, revelation by revelation.

You are correct, but you veer of course trying to come to the proper conclusions. The Seals, Trumpets and Vials are the order of the book of Revelation, but the Seals overlap with the Trumpet Judgments and the Vial Judgments because almost all of the Seals cover 42 months, they are not linear in nature, Jesus opening the Seals allows to Beast to go fort as FOUR HORSES over 42 months. In other words he Conquers {White Horse} for 42 months, he brings War {takes away peace/Red Horse} for 42 months, he brings Starvation/Famine {Black Horse} for 42 months, he brings Death/Sickness {Pale Green Horse} over a 42 month period. The 5th Seal is not a horse, but its the Anti-Christs work product so to speak over a 42 month period, he kills about 2 billion people, many who are the Martyred Saints {these are mostly the Gentile Church who come to Christ AFTER the Rapture}. 

All of these Seals are opened at the exact same time, on the same day, which would be day 1261, leaving 1260 days for the Beast to RULE !! Then the 6th Seal is opened on Day 1261 also, God's Wrath is thus announced as here, the Lamb is about to judge this wicked world. Then we get Rev. ch. 7.

Here is the Chronological Order of the book of Revelation. 

1.) Rev. ch. 1, Jesus Glorified {Wrote the things which you HAVE SEEN}

2.) Rev. chapters 2 and 3 is The Seven Churches {Write the things WHICH ARE}

Rev. chapters 4:1 is the Rapture and the 70th Week Tribulation is everything that comes AFTERWARDS {the things which shall be HEREAFTER}

3.) Rev. chapters 4 and 5 is the Raptured Church in Heaven BEFORE the Seals are opened, we see the have the very gifts Promised to the Seven Churches in Rev. ch.'s 2 and 3, they sit on a THRONE, they have CROWNS and a White Raiment {Robe} on Rev. 4:4. In Rev. 5:9-10 they are shown to be REDEEMED.

4.) Rev. 6, 7, 8, 9, 15&16 are the Judgment Chapters. This is the actual Chronological Order of the Book of Revelation. Everything else, save chapters 20, 21 and 22 are Parenthetical chapters that are interspersed with the Judgment chapters or overlap the Judgment chapters. 

5.) Rev. chapters 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 17, 18 and 19 are all Parenthetical Citation chapters that happen during the Red Judgment Chapters above. They each have specified details within them about a certain Event, Person or Action via God. The least understood by me is ch. 10, it seems to be a flash forward to the very end, then Jesus seems to swear, TIME WILL BE NO MORE  after the Seven Thunders. Thus it means God will take over imho.

6.) Rev. 11 is about the Two-witnesses Ministry on earth for 1260 days. We are given this 1260 day timeline for a reason, we can juxtapose them against the Beasts rule to figure out when they show up, its SIMPLE MATH. If they die at the 2nd Woe {6th Trump} and the Beast dies at the 7th Vial then their timelines can not be parallel, so they must also start their Ministry BEFORE the Anti-Christ becomes the Beast on day 1261, and that matches Malachi 4:5 which says Elijah will be sent back BEFORE the Day of the Lord {day 1261 to day 2520}. So in essence, Daniel ch. 12 explains all this, the Two-witnesses are the 1335 Blessing, the False Prophet places the Image of the Beast in the Temple at the 1290, and the Anti-Christ Conquers Jerusalem at the 1260. The Two-witnesses pray down all the Plagues of God, just like Moses held up the staff to win the battle. The reason we are shown the 7th Trumpet in Rev. 11 is because even though the Two-witnesses die at the 2nd Woe {which really happened in Rev. 9 right ? of course} we are shown their ENTIRE WORK ON EARTH !! They prayed for the 7th Trump to sound {which is the 3rd Woe....see Rev. 8:13, the LAST THREE Trumps are the Three Woes} and thus we see that their prayer brings the final Judgment and ultimate VICTORY by Jesus, even though the details are given to us in chapter 16. You see, we see the 2nd Woe talked about in Rev. 11 BUT we get the details of the 2nd Woe in ch. 9, likewise, we are given the 7th Trump {3rd Woe} also in ch. 11, but we are given the DETAILS in chapter 16, the final Judgment Chapter. Amen. So Rev. 11 starts 75 days before the 1260 at the 1335, which is 1335 days from the Second Coming of Jesus which Daniel 12 says will END ALL THESE WONDERS !!

7.) Rev. 12 is much easier to explain, LOL, it starts in Rev. ch. 6, Satan is cast down to earth at the 6th Seal, he is the UNTIMELY FIGS that are cast to earth like stars. Thus he starts chasing the Woman {Israel} who Repented when Elijah showed up at the 1335, but he starts chasing her at the 1260, BUT.....of course God gives her a SIGN at the 1290, which happens 30 days before the 1260. So God protects the 1/3 of the Jews who Repents in Petra. Amen.

8.) Rev. 13 starts in Rev. ch. 6 also with the First Seal, this is the Anti-Christ becoming THE BEAST by Conquering Israel and THE MANY Countries in the Mediterranean Sea Region. The False Prophet which will be a Jewish High Priest is placed over ALL RELIGION, and he mandates that all men worship the Beast or die. Antiochus named a High Priest to office named Jason {real name Yeshua} who tried to Hellenize the Jews, which led to the Maccabean Revolt !! So not only was Antiochus a TYPE of Anti-Christ but he had a TYPE False Prophet also, John was told about the False Prophet, but Daniel was never specifically told about the False Prophet, and I wondered why ? It came to me, God did not tell Daniel about the coming False Prophet because for the next 500 years {until 70 AD} they would have killed every other High Priest fearing he was the coming False Prophet, so Daniel was only given the 1290 Event ! The person was not specified for a reason. Remember, King Herod tried to kill baby Jesus because of the Prophecy of his coming birth. So Daniel was not given this, but John was. 

9.) Rev. 14 covers the full 7 years. This is The Harvest Chapter !! We see Israel {The Wheat} on Mt Zion in verse 1 and we see the Wicked Tares in verses 18-20 being placed in the Wine-press of Gods Wrath {Rev. 16}. So these grow together until the end where God gathers the Wheat into his Barn and BUNDLES the tares {into the grave} where He will burn them at a later date {in 1000 years at the Second Death}. But this Harvest has one more Entity in it, the Church is Raptured in verse 14 by Jesus in a sorta Soliloquy, we are being shown the Wheat and the Tares and Jesus say in a sorta Soliloquy, this is what happened to the Church, I harvested them from upon a Cloud !! The Three Harvests are identified.

10.) Rev. 17 starts in Rev. ch. 6, the Beast must kill off all other Religions to be worshiped as the ONLY GOD. Rev. 17 is the Harlot being Judged, it is ALL FALSE RELIGION of All Time. God used the Anti-Christ to Judge her. His own hearts desire to be the ONLY GOD causes him to wipe out all other Religions, thus Judging Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, and all false religions. Verse 17 says God placed it in their hearts to do His will !! The Harlot Religions have been co-mingled with the Babylonian/Government Beasts forever, thus the Harlot RIDES the Beast. Its about False Religion and False Governance under Satan's Dark Rule. Rev. 17 is False Religion being Judged.

11.) Rev. 18 starts at the First Seal and ends at the 7th Vial. It is Babylon {Whole World} being Judged by the Seven Seals, Seven Trumps and Seven Vials over a 42 month period of time. We can see that Satan has been cast down in verse 2, it says Babylon is the Habitation of devils, well, Satan has been cast down with his Demons and Apollyon has been released. By the way, Apollyon kills the Two-witnesses, not the Anti-Christ. In verse 4 we see God telling the Jews to Flee Judea lest they partake in the worlds sins and Judgments. In Rev. 7 we see God HOLDS UP the 7th Seal from sounding until the Jews {the 144,000 is really ALL Jews who repent its not 144,00, thats a Metaphor 12 = complete thus 12 x 12,000 = ALL ISRAEL} make it to Petra {Sealed} we can see this is what it is by what is held up, God says hurt not the TREES, EARTH nor the SEAS........Well what do the first four Trumps do ? The hurt the trees, sea and earth. So verse 4 is just God calling Israel to flee to safety. The Merchants of ch. 18 cry and bewail their fate, of course, that is what happens when a Tyrant kills 2 billion people then the 200 Million Angelic Army {its not HUMANS} slay 1.5 billion people who took the Mark of the Beast. So half the population of the world die, thats really bad for the Merchants. On top of that 1/3 of the trees burn and ALL the grasses burn. 1/3 of the Seas turn to blood, 1/3 of the sea creatures die {fish//shrimp}, 1/3 of the ships are destroyed, 1/3 of the Suns light is blocked out, probably by smoke, that stops crops from growing etc. etc. This is why the Merchants are shown crying and moaning here. In verse 8 it says Babylons {Worlds} Judgment comes in ONE DAY, well the Day of the Lord which lasts 42 months is that day. And in verse 10 it says Babylons Judgment is come in ONE HOUR, well the 10 Kings server ONE HOUR with the Beast, and that is also 42 Months, so Babylon {The WHOLE WORLD} is Judged over a 42 month period of time. We surely know that Babylon = The Whole World because Rev. 16:19 says so..........it says God sees the Nations he defeated at Armageddon as Babylon the Great, He specifically calls them Babylon the Great. All we have to do is look back at the 6th Via to see who they ate, and we see the THREE DEMON Frogs gathered the Kings from  the WHOLE WORLD to battle God at Armageddon, so those God defeats in Rev. 16:19 are the Kings of the Whole World and God calls then Babylon the Great. So Babylon the Great is Satan's Dark Kingdom on earth, and Babel means confusion, who is more confused than MEN who actually fight against their own Creator ? 

12.) Rev. 19 covers the full 7 years just like Rev. 14, it shows the Church in Heaven BEFORE we Mary the Lamb, then it shows us returning with Jesus on White Horses to defeat the Beast and all his Minions on earth. Then Jesus casts the Anti-Christ and False Prophet straight into hell and locks up Satan in the pit for 1000 years.

13. Rev. 20 is the Judgment Seat..........Rev. 21 and 22 is the Ever After and New Jerusalem. 

[WilliamL]

On 2/11/2020 at 6:32 AM, The Light said:

The seventh seal begins the wrath of God which includes all the 7 trumpets. The trumpets ARE NOT the tribulation.

This shouldn't be rocket science, but folks have been so discombobulated by now that few can see it.

The first five seals were foretold by Jesus in Matthew 24:5-10:

1) false christs and prophets, 2) wars and rumors of wars, 3) famines, 4) pestilences of all kinds, including earthquakes, and 5) persecution of the faithful, including unto death. Then comes the sixth seal, being the heavenly signs of Matthew 24:29; followed by the Rapture of the Church, and the sealing of the faithful Israelite remnant on earth, both shown in Rev. 7.

Thereafter comes the Wrath, lasting through both the Trumpets and the Bowls. For which the faithful of the Church have "not been appointed." 1 Thes.5:9

[R. Hartono]

The 1st seal opening will start the great Tribulation when antichrist conquers the world with peace n he wins peace again n again so the world Will say peace n safety then sudden destruction comes with the 2 nd seal opening.

Edited February 13, 2020 by R. Hartono

[R. Hartono]

The sukkot festival is the picture of wedding Feast in heaven for 7 years when on the earth comes the 7 years great Tribulation.

[The Light]

16 hours ago, WilliamL said:

This shouldn't be rocket science, but folks have been so discombobulated by now that few can see it.

The first five seals were foretold by Jesus in Matthew 24:5-10:

1) false christs and prophets, 2) wars and rumors of wars, 3) famines, 4) pestilences of all kinds, including earthquakes, and 5) persecution of the faithful, including unto death. Then comes the sixth seal, being the heavenly signs of Matthew 24:29; followed by the Rapture of the Church, and the sealing of the faithful Israelite remnant on earth, both shown in Rev. 7.

Thereafter comes the Wrath, lasting through both the Trumpets and the Bowls. For which the faithful of the Church have "not been appointed." 1 Thes.5:9

Yes, it only makes sense that what Matthew says in Matthew 24 would agree with what John says in Revelation.

I have a little bit different view of the Church being raptured just prior to wrath. We can clearly see Jesus coming in the clouds and sending his angels to gather His elect from heaven and earth(Matt 24) I believe that there is also a pretribulation rapture before any seals are opened. I believe that the Church is gathered from heaven and that the 12 tribes are gathered from the earth. I don't believe that the 12 tribes are appointed to wrath either. When the wrath of God comes I believe that the only believers on earth will be in the nation of Israel and they will flee to a place of protection. To see how these things are possible you would need to understand that the trumpets and bowls (vials) do not follow each other in order but are a different view of the same thing. Check out the similarity of the trumpets and bowls.

[The Light]

11 hours ago, R. Hartono said:

The 1st seal opening will start the great Tribulation when antichrist conquers the world with peace n he wins peace again n again so the world Will say peace n safety then sudden destruction comes with the 2 nd seal opening.

The 1st seal opening will start the tribulation. The great tribulation begins when the abomination of desolation is set up. I think they will say peace and safety, immediately after the tribulation which occurs in the sixth seal. Sudden destruction is when the wrath of God begins.

[The Light]

11 hours ago, R. Hartono said:

The sukkot festival is the picture of wedding Feast in heaven for 7 years when on the earth comes the 7 years great Tribulation.

This is the early summer harvest when the Church will be raptured pre-trib. Noah is in the ark 7 days before the flood. The Feast of Trumpets is the fall fruit harvest. The last trump is blown on the feast of trumpets. This is the harvest of the 12 tribes, that occurs just before the wrath of God. It will be like the days of Lot, where destruction occurs the day Lot leaves Sodom. Only the believers from the nation of Israel go through the wrath of God and they do so in a place of protection. None of Gods people are appointed to wrath.