Obedience or Popularity?

[johnthebaptist]

It seems to me there are two kinds of people in this world. One group wants to do God's will. The other group wants to be popular.

For example, God said homosexuality is an abomination (Leviticus 18:22). One group stands behind this commandment. The other has discovered it is more popular to say there is nothing wrong with homosexuality, and so they say there is nothing wrong with homosexualty. 

Now I suppose they can say anything they want, but they don't stop there. I understand California won't do business with states that believe homosexuality is a sin. One woman went to prison because she thought it was wrong to give a marriage license to homosexuals. How much larger will this cancer grow?

[johnthebaptist]

14 minutes ago, charisenexcelsis said:

I do not believe it is black and white. We were created to be in community. It is often healthy to want to be liked. I expect even those who remain faithful will struggle with this. And I expect some will fall and need restoration with compassion.

When our desire to be liked outweighs our desire to obey God, then trouble results. God knows what is best for us.

[johnthebaptist]

6 minutes ago, charisenexcelsis said:

There are many who will obey God and feel, to one degree or the other, sorrow. And there will be other truly repentant after compromising. It is interesting that you chose what you did as the issue. We are already hip deep in selfishness, sensuality and materialism. But do not look at the other and say, "There but for the grace of God go I." Mind first to your own state.

I can't ignore a pastor who is leading my congregation astray.

[warrior12]

Yes, HUMANISM AND BORN AGAIN BELIEVER.    

The believer values are from the bible, though there are many who twist and interprets it to skew their acceptance ect.

The Humanist is explained from the article below.

Humanism is a progressive philosophy of life that, without theism or other supernatural beliefs, affirms our ability and responsibility to lead ethical lives of personal fulfillment that aspire to the greater good.
– American Humanist Association

Humanism is a rational philosophy informed by science, inspired by art, and motivated by compassion. Affirming the dignity of each human being, it supports the maximization of individual liberty and opportunity consonant with social and planetary responsibility. It advocates the extension of participatory democracy and the expansion of the open society, standing for human rights and social justice. Free of supernaturalism, it recognizes human beings as a part of nature and holds that values-be they religious, ethical, social, or political-have their source in human experience and culture. Humanism thus derives the goals of life from human need and interest rather than from theological or ideological abstractions, and asserts that humanity must take responsibility for its own destiny.
– The Humanist Magazine

Edited February 18, 2020 by warrior12

[johnthebaptist]

15 minutes ago, charisenexcelsis said:

Your congregation? You mean the one to which you belong? Is that happening in the congregation where you attend?

United Methodist. For five years we had a pastor shoving homosexuality down our throats.

[Yishai]

25 minutes ago, johnthebaptist said:

United Methodist. For five years we had a pastor shoving homosexuality down our throats.

Dang...thats nuts brother. Very sorry to hear that...People should be able to see why The Law is so important, its a corrector of false doctrine, and the Knowledge of sin.

Lets not forget this even lol, Corona Virus going on right now, I heard from people eating Bats, Forbidden to eat in The Holy Fathers Diet, He designed for Mankind.

Edited February 18, 2020 by Yishai

[johnthebaptist]

35 minutes ago, charisenexcelsis said:

I have a fine friend who is among the UMC pastors who are standing up against this. I pray that God will grant you wisdom in how to handle the situation.

Thank you.

[Sower]

2 hours ago, johnthebaptist said:

How much larger will this cancer grow?

Till we all go home: )

[johnthebaptist]

2 minutes ago, Sower said:

Till we all go home: )

Or if we follow Jesus, maybe we can shrink that cancer.

[copenhagen]

I predict lgbtq+ will be warmly welcomed at the majority of churches in the US/North Am. in 10-20 years time and those who don't will be shunned as bigots.