Obedience or Popularity?

[copenhagen]

Notice also that it is the women who are pushing hardest for lgbtq+ acceptance in churches. This means in 5 to 10 to 15 years, female pastors will become the norm. Gay and lesbian pastors too. Then trans pastors in drag will be behind the pulpit. With children sitting on their laps. 

I see it in my own church. Women are not yet pastors but they are teaching classes, so it's a small step. 

[LadyKay]

24 minutes ago, copenhagen said:

LGBTQ+ once they are "welcomed in" will then demand access to the kids, reading them stories about the Bible, and about how forgiving and tolerant Jesus is. After being allowed to read from the Bible to kids, they will have kids sitting next to them. Then on their laps, and so on. Drag queen story will become a thing in churches. It could take 5 or 10 or 15. years, but it will happen. Come as you are!

Anyone who objects will be labeled a "sinner" for hating the children of god and christians will become afraid to say anything at first and then stop attending. The pews will then be filled by homosexual sympathizers and all of the other political baggage it brings with it. 

Well locked the church doors don't let them in. While we are at it, we should make a list of other people we shouldn't let in  Yep. Church is no place for sinners. Our Christian whiteness might get dirty. 

All funniness aside. I think what you wrote here shows an irrational fear.   As Christians we should never fear welcoming anyone into our church.  

Edited February 18, 2020 by LadyKay

[copenhagen]

The thing is, the enemies of God will spam you 24/7, calling you names, saying you are not a true Christian, gas lighting you non-stop, saying you must accept lgbtq+ in. I just laugh at them. 

 

They cannot quote actual scripture and even if they were forced to, would just laugh and dismiss it, gas lighting by saying you "misinterpreted" the word of God. These devils are in our midst. They are very easy to spot. 

Edited February 18, 2020 by copenhagen

[LadyKay]

13 minutes ago, copenhagen said:

Notice also that it is the women who are pushing hardest for lgbtq+ acceptance in churches. This means in 5 to 10 to 15 years, female pastors will become the norm. Gay and lesbian pastors too. Then trans pastors in drag will be behind the pulpit. With children sitting on their laps. 

I see it in my own church. Women are not yet pastors but they are teaching classes, so it's a small step. 

I'm not even going to touch this one. . 

[copenhagen]

The devils are at work in this thread already lol. Gaslighting by saying following the teachings of Jesus is "hate!"

They don't even care that their wicked strategies were outlined right before they posted. They know they are poised to take over the church and desecrate it so it doesn't really matter either way. 

Edited February 18, 2020 by copenhagen

[LadyKay]

12 minutes ago, maryjayne said:

Mmmm - yes. The majority of new pastors, over the past 20 years, in my country are women.

I'm not sure what women pastors have  to do with homeosexuals but I'll just back and see where this thread goes. 

[johnthebaptist]

1 hour ago, LadyKay said:

In what way?  What we being said. 

In one case he ridiculed those of us who believed homosexuality was a sin. I can't remember the words he used. Over and over again he'd explain that there was nothing wrong with homosexuality - homosexuals and lesbians were just different. The point was that if we thought otherwise, we didn't have love in our hearts.

[LadyKay]

9 minutes ago, copenhagen said:

The devils are at work in this thread already lol. Gaslighting by saying following the teachings of Jesus is "hate!"

They don't even care that their wicked strategies were outlined right before they posted. They know they are poised to take over the church and desecrate it so it doesn't really matter either way. 

 

[LadyKay]

6 minutes ago, johnthebaptist said:

In one case he ridiculed those of us who believed homosexuality was a sin. I can't remember the words he used. Over and over again he'd explain that there was nothing wrong with homosexuality - homosexuals and lesbians were just different. The point was that if we thought otherwise, we didn't have love in our hearts.

That would give me pause to think. Perhaps the time may come when we as Christians will have to go back to meeting in small groups inside each others's homes.  

[johnthebaptist]

20 minutes ago, LadyKay said:

That would give me pause to think. Perhaps the time may come when we as Christians will have to go back to meeting in small groups inside each others's homes.  

I'm waiting to see how this United Methodist war turns out. The conservatives ("traditionalists") have gotten their way, but now there is talk about splitting. I'm hoping that won't happen in my church conference..