Abused Verses

July 15, 2005

From Post#35

Now this is prime example of how one can misapply the Scriptures to fit their argument and make the Word of God void and confusing.

Verses to consider:

Matt 17:24-27

July 15, 2005

Shiloh357; Ayin Jade; Keith; Ronald; other one; Super Jew,
You six sound like broken records in other topics. Lets keep with the Topic subject this one is on "Abused Verses." Do you have any comments in this topic or do you individuals just go around other topics condemning and making fun of believers that don't believe the way you do? This is really great Christian love you portray to others.

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mote, care to demonstrate where I made fun of you. I demonstrated that the passage about pressed down shaken together can be legitimately applied to money in principle. Why don't you address the substance of what I said? I even presented Scriptures that demonstrate that God cause our generosity to come back to us. Even though that was not the subject of the verse in question was not money, the principle that it espouses carries over into other situation and contexts.

What you call "abuse" is old news anyway. I don't know how many times I have heard people "correct" our understanding of Rev. 3:20 to be talking to the church. You present it as if it is some new Revelation or something. In addition, there is a difference between abusing the Scriptures, and having various applications. A lot of what you are calling "abuse" is not abuse.

yomotalking · July 15, 2005

I agree that Revelation 3:20 is not a salvation verse and to use it as such is not a valid application, since the application is not supported by the single meaning of the passage.

The reason most people aren't concerned is that the application that was made can be supported from other areas of scripture. I think you have raised a vailid concern. The ends do not justify the means. It is very important that when we make applications from a section of scripture to our lives, that they are supported by the single meaning of the text in question

Personally, I don't think it "wrong" to use this verse for salvation for the reason you stated.

However, it is troublesome that we don't apply it in the way it was meant to.

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I agree on that one.

Makes sense!!

Yomo

Christ's Free Servant · July 15, 2005

My understanding of this verse is; Seek the Lord to know what the call on your childs life is, then train him up in it. Prepare him to walk in the calling the Lord has put on his life. Just a little revelation from the Lord a few years back.

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That's cool! I like that one.

You know, I think it could be translated many different ways, but one thing seems central no matter how you interpret it, and that is that how we train our children during their early years will carry with them into their adult years and can affect who they become and what they end up doing with their lives. They still have free wills, which is why I used the word "can" affect who they become. Even children who came from good upbringings can go their own way. And, those from horrible childhoods (like my own) can turn out fine, but only by the grace of God!!!

yomotalking · July 15, 2005

Alot of abused verses comes from not knowing a meaning of a word in that verse.Such case would be the word"suffer".This word has two meanings.....one is to allow and another means to feel pain or distress.In the verse..."suffer the little children".....JESUS is saying allow the little children to come unto HIM and forbid them not.I heard a preacher once use this verse with the meaning of suffer as being in pain!We need to know the meaning of Biblical words in order to understand a verse and its meaning.

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That's stupid.

Horrible in fact!

How could ANYONE misinterpet something like that...

So the preacher says "Make 'em suffer.

Madness.

Mad guy!!!

Yomo

July 17, 2005

From Post 23

RGR · July 17, 2005

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July 17, 2005

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other one · July 17, 2005

Mote,

Our nation is facing something so drastic it has a very good chance of failing, and the last thing we need right now is some rebellion over the tax structure.

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Constant · July 17, 2005

I am reading Revelations right now. Any suggestions on how to do it? I mean I have heard so many things from people on here that it is scarey and hard to understand. Do you agree?