testing for the virus

[Neighbor]

5 hours ago, missmuffet said:

They don't want to report it and have them or their family quarentined. So they are infecting everyone who are well. 

Hi, I don't know about that speculation. Doesn't seem very likely to me.

[R. Hartono]

6 hours ago, ReneeIW said:

That’s a valid concern. My other concern is that people will panic if they test positive and flood the hospitals.

im 99.9% sure I had the virus this week. My son was sick and then everyone else got sick. My husband said it was a cold but both of us had pain on the left side of our bodies for one day that came on suddenly and was unlike anything I had ever felt. We had extreme fatigue, cough, my husband had a fever (I  was too weak to take my temperature.) if we had tested positive who knows if I would have felt compelled to go to the hospital and use up their resources.
 

Thank goodness that I didn’t have to be rushed to the hospital because I don’t like my local one even though it is in an upscale neighborhood. I would have driven an hour to get to a better one in the city.

You need to notify the virus center for immediate diagnose.

[ReneeIW]

1 hour ago, R. Hartono said:

You need to notify the virus center for immediate diagnose.

I haven’t left the house since I have been sick and don’t plan on leaving but to go for walks with family.

[R. Hartono]

19 hours ago, ReneeIW said:

I haven’t left the house since I have been sick and don’t plan on leaving but to go for walks with family.

Just phone the Corona center n they will send medical staff to check u.

[ladypeartree]

depends on where you live and how sick you are   Praying for you 

[rontiger]

On ‎3‎/‎25‎/‎2020 at 12:11 PM, ladypeartree said:

 If it works does this mean that random people can move around and ignore the lock down by claiming to have been tested and have already had it ???   

Lock down in London??? I  saw on my news 36 hrs ago that the London subway was jam-packed with people. Have things changed?

[ladypeartree]

No if anything it is worse but people claim to be in essential jobs and with less trains running and public transport few and far between they are all crammed together on the few still operating it is causing a nightmare for doctors and nurses trying to get back to hospitals There is some talk about using the black cabs  (as they have shields between the driver and passengers ) to transport NHS staff to and from work  New powers for the police are starting to kick in with some  people being fined but it is still the soft approach at the moment trying to talk some sense into people 

[Jostler]

Just now, rontiger said:

Lock down in London??? I  saw on my news 36 hrs ago that the London subway was jam-packed with people. Have things changed?

man...those pics of the tube lately are just mind boggling evidence of just how ineffective control measures taken so far are .... and just how much pain, suffering and death they are leading to :/

I've had a chance to investigate these tests that are supposed to be available en masse this week.  They are antibody tests, not antigen or rna tests.....which means they will only tell who HAS HAD the virus long enough to develop an immune response and had begun to generate antibodies to fight the infection.

They won't be able to tell who has it now.  It's still very valuable information, but until vigorous testing of who is infected NOW begins, it will remain impossible to identify and isolate carriers and stop them from spreading the virus to others.  Until that is done, all the rest is shooting in the dark.  Social distancing and isolation alone will slow it down and give a few more days before hospitals are completely overwhelmed ...which is going to result in many thousands of needless deaths.  But it will not stop this.

There is still the unanswered question as to why some 14% of those in a study in China have caught this thing twice.  The study was small, and because of it's small size, it lacks statistical certainty.  But it points to something that desperately needs more study.  It raises the question of whether or not having had this thing, and tested "clear" afterward, confers a robust immunity or not. 

It also opens the question of whether they were infected a second time at all, or if this virus is "bi-phasic" which some viruses are known to be.  It's not a new thing...it's been seen before.  In bi-phasic viruses the virus can multiply, cause disease, then retreat to internal organs and "hibernate" for weeks to years.  During this time it is undetectable without internal biopsies because the virus simply doesn't show up with normal test samples taken from mucous membranes or lungs.  It appears the system has cleared the virus, but it comes raging back later for a second go at the victim.

This is an area that deserves a LOT of further investigation, and especially because those studied who have experienced a second round, whatever is causing it, are dying of the second infection at a much higher rate than those who have had it once.  And dying of different causes.....the second round is killing via organ failure....not ARD.  And it's killing the young as well as old.

This story is not fully told, or understood yet.

[ReneeIW]

14 hours ago, R. Hartono said:

Just phone the Corona center n they will send medical staff to check u.

Hi Hartono, 

Where I live they are asking that people who feel sick simply stay at home and not take any action unless they develop symptoms like shortness of breath. I feel almost 100% today. Only lingering fatigue. Zero pain. Praising God nothing got into my lungs. I’ve had pneumonia before(while pregnant) and it can be scary struggling to breath. Thankfully there is an antibiotic for pneumonia. This is why Covid-19 is so concerning -no medication yet.. 
 I always get sick because I have three young kids and kids spread everything. Especially if they are involved in extra curricular activities and come into contact with even more kids after  the school day ends.The kids on our block were sick too.

Just praying that if we are successful in slowing this down, it does not come back when the school year starts in the Fall. 

Edited March 27, 2020 by ReneeIW

[rontiger]

1 hour ago, ladypeartree said:

No if anything it is worse but people claim to be in essential jobs and with less trains running and public transport few and far between they are all crammed together on the few still operating it is causing a nightmare for doctors and nurses trying to get back to hospitals There is some talk about using the black cabs  (as they have shields between the driver and passengers ) to transport NHS staff to and from work  New powers for the police are starting to kick in with some  people being fined but it is still the soft approach at the moment trying to talk some sense into people 

The top US coronavirus scientist said you can get the coronavirus infection by breathing virus-laden air(but he thinks it's not the main way one gets it. But maybe in a month they'll say airborne spreading is the main way) So I think that it has to be an absolute ultra-priority to get your NHS people to work by taxi as you said. Have they warned your country that Covid-19 can be acquired by air?

The NIH's chief of infectious diseases Dr.Tony Fauci's admission 10 hours ago, was the first time I heard a definite answer about airborne transmission.

Praise the Lord Jesus forever!