IN THE MIDST OF COVID19, WHAT'S NEXT IN BIBLE PROPHECY?

[Justin Adams]

The great fight in heaven was during the first Advent in Revelation. Originally, according to Job, all was well as "the sons of God shouted for joy". It was at the birth of the Messiah that everything came unglued for the evil ones. "behold, I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven". The adversary now has no 'brief' to accuse believers with in the Courts of Heaven.

The stars that John also refers to are well know and the charts can be backtracked to 3BC Sept 11.

In Gen 3 the word 'Nacash' has more than one meaning and can be seen as a serpentine throne guardian as one example. The Hebrew is distinct and descriptive.

https://freedomfromdelusion.blogspot.com/2014/12/the-nachash-in-garden-of-eden.html

 

 

[luigi]

3 hours ago, Justin Adams said:

The great fight in heaven was during the first Advent in Revelation. Originally, according to Job, all was well as "the sons of God shouted for joy". It was at the birth of the Messiah that everything came unglued for the evil ones. "behold, I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven". The adversary now has no 'brief' to accuse believers with in the Courts of Heaven.

The stars that John also refers to are well know and the charts can be backtracked to 3BC Sept 11.

In Gen 3 the word 'Nacash' has more than one meaning and can be seen as a serpentine throne guardian as one example. The Hebrew is distinct and descriptive.

https://freedomfromdelusion.blogspot.com/2014/12/the-nachash-in-garden-of-eden.html

 

 

Hello Justin Adams,

While some stars in the Bible may very well refer to those like our Sun, many other references to stars are metaphors for the angels who illumine mankind with either truth from the Lord, or false illumination from the devil.

When the little horn in Daniel 8:10 casts some of heavens stars down to the ground and stomps upon them, these stars are then explained two verses later in Daniel 8:12, as truth that the little horn casts down to the ground.

Daniel 8:10 And it waxed great, even to the host of heaven; and it cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground, and stamped upon them.

Daniel 8:12 And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered.

[Justin Adams]

John's vision of Virgo in the Constellation Leo with the 12 stars.

Other stars are spoken of as the heavenly hosts as well, but the not the vision of the birth.

Messiah was born 9/11 on the 2nd or 3rd year BC. This date works with later studies of Herod's death formerly thought to be 2 BC. It is exact to within an 80 minute widow.

Edited May 19, 2020 by Justin Adams

[branchesofHim]

7 minutes ago, Justin Adams said:

Messiah was born 9/11 on the 2nd or 3rd year BC. This date works with later studies of Herod's death formerly thought to be 2 BC. It is exact to within an 80 minute widow.

Does anyone here believe God is greater than this or any other virus? Hello? Where and who are you? Shalom.

[iamlamad]

11 hours ago, luigi said:

iamlamad, you are mixing data from Revelation 7 incorrectly into the timeline of Revelation 9. [/quote]

The events in Revelation 7 in which the Lord's servants are sealed with God's truth, occur prior to the events in Revelation 8 and 9. Many of the Lord's servants die during this great tribulation time as indicated in Revelation 7:13-17. Then comes a small space of time in heaven, after which the four angels who had been restraining the four winds of the earth, cease from restraining the winds. The results of the four angels ceasing to restrain the four winds of the earth are those depicted in Revelation 8 in which 1/3 of all earth's environmental resources are destroyed. The devil, aka, Apollyon, Abaddon, the destroyer, then opens the bottomless pit (Revelation 9), which is also the sea from which the beast ascends (Revelation 13). It is during this time of the beasts reign in which the remnant surviving saints on earth are not to be hurt by the initial damage (Revelation 9:4) the dragons power will cause to all other inhabitants of the earth and sea (Revelation 12:12).

Revelation 9:4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.

Revelation 12:12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

 

iamlamad, you are mixing data from Revelation 7 incorrectly into the timeline of Revelation 9.

Why is this so difficult for people to understand? Ah! I know: it is reading with preconceived glasses on.

Luigi, have you ever been to see a play where there are separated "acts" to the play, and they close the curtain between acts? What happens behind the curtain between acts? They are rearranging the setting to fit the next act. 

Here is truth: throw out preconceptions and learn it:  John goes through seals 1 through 6 without any stopping. But there is a problem: God CANNOT and WILL NOT have the 7th seal opened to begin the time of Jacob's trouble without two events being done first: the 144000 MUST be sealed before the trumpet judgments with God's wrath begins. And the church MUST be snatched up and taken to heaven because God has said, He will set NO APPOINTMENTS for us with His wrath. 

God in the vision, God  stopped with the seals after the 6th and had an "intermission." He had to see these two events accomplished. So John saw the 144,000 sealed for their protection from the stinging locusts that John saw in chapter 9. Notice they WERE SEALED in chapter 9. When and HOW did they get sealed in chapter 9? They didn't - they were sealed in chapter 7 FOR protection in chapter 9. 

The events in Revelation 7 in which the Lord's servants are sealed with God's truth

  Here is your problem: you are reading into John's book what is not written - preconceptions striking again! They are being seals for PROTECTION during the trumpets, not sealed as in born again. Note that this seal is VISIBLE  - in their forehead. It has an express purpose: to protect those with the seal. 

Many of the Lord's servants die during this great tribulation time as indicated in Revelation 7:13-17.

Anyone is free to believe this if they choose, but they will be in error. This group, to large to number has NO RELATIONSHIP with those numbered. Did you not read that people seek death and cannot find it?  Stop reading into things what John did not write.  For those sealed, the sealing is ALL that happens in chapter 7. Do people just not understand anything about TIME and TIMING in John's book? Chapter 7 is before ANY day - even ONE day  - of "great tribulation." 

Let's do this line upon line:  luigi, what events will CAUSE days of great tribulation (GT)? When in John's great book will the days of GT begin?  Did you not understand from Jesus own words that "those days" of "GT" will not start until AFTER the midpoint of the week? (In Revelation that would be after the 7th trumpet.) Did you just not read what the Beast and False prophet are going to do (chapter 13)? They are going to build an image (think Nebuchadnezzar) and force people to bow and worship this image, OR DIE. They are going to create a mark and force all to receive this mark OR DIE. It will be these events that will cause "those days" of "GT" (Mat 24).

Did you just ignore chapter 14, where God sends angels to WARN people not to take the mark?  That all who take the mark will be doomed to eternity in the lake of fire?  God would CERTAINLY not allow the mark to be enforced and people be doomed before the warning! Far be it from our God to do such a thing! That means, "those days" of "GT" will NOT START in Revelation until after the warning in chapter 14. (How could anyone imagine people have died from GT in chapter 7?)  How amazing is our God! In chapter 15, those people who have died in the GT BEGIN to show up in heaven.  That is chapter 15, NOT CHAPTER 7!

That large crowd, too large to number, are the GENTILE CHURCH OF TODAY, just raptured to heaven. John did not see the rapture, so did not write of it - But for our sake God allowed John to see the raptured church IN HEAVEN before wrath begins - just as He has promised in different scriptures.  For those that ignore John's chronology, their theories will be far from truth. 

 

It is during this time of the beasts reign in which the remnant surviving saints on earth are not to be hurt by the initial damage (Revelation 9:4)

  Sorry, this is complete myth.  The pretrib rapture will remove the "saints" before the week begins: that is, before the 7th seal is opened.  The only "saints" left on earth will be a remnant.  And they WILL NOT BE SEALED in their forehead, so will be stung by these stinging locusts. I think someone is confusing seals. Yes, believers are sealed with the HOLY SPIRIT inside their spirit - but this seal is invisible.  Truthfully, NO ONE KNOWS for sure if the born again walk is even going to be available after the rapture of the church. I personally think not.  The moment after the rapture things will be on earth as they were during the Old Testament: only the prophets, priests and kings were anointed by the Holy Spirit.  I hope you notice that trumpet 5  - the stinging locusts - is not really hurting the earth? It is only hurting PEOPLE on the earth, tormenting them. And they CANNOT DIE.

Did you completely miss it? THE BEAST does not get His 42 months of authority until chapter 13! You have "jumped the gun" again! In chapter 9, it is BEFORE the Beast is even revealed: few if any will  know who he is at this point in John's narrative. 

You have totally misunderstood the sealing in chapter 7 and its purpose.  You have totally not understood that the great crowd, too large to number is the CHURCH, just raptured (a moment before the earthquake at the 6th seal) seen in heaven. HOW did they get there? By way of the rapture.  Stop and think: perhaps 50 generations of believers: this will be a far far greater number than the saints killed during the entire 70th week. 

[iamlamad]

1 hour ago, Justin Adams said:

John's vision of Virgo in the Constellation Leo with the 12 stars.

Other stars are spoken of as the heavenly hosts as well, but the not the vision of the birth.

Messiah was born 9/11 on the 2nd or 3rd year BC. This date works with later studies of Herod's death formerly thought to be 2 BC. It is exact to within an 80 minute widow.

I think 2 BC has a more perfect picture, with the sun about her shoulders. The 12 stars form a crown above her head, not shown in this picture.

[iamlamad]

5 hours ago, Justin Adams said:

The great fight in heaven was during the first Advent in Revelation. Originally, according to Job, all was well as "the sons of God shouted for joy". It was at the birth of the Messiah that everything came unglued for the evil ones. "behold, I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven". The adversary now has no 'brief' to accuse believers with in the Courts of Heaven.

The stars that John also refers to are well know and the charts can be backtracked to 3BC Sept 11.

In Gen 3 the word 'Nacash' has more than one meaning and can be seen as a serpentine throne guardian as one example. The Hebrew is distinct and descriptive.

https://freedomfromdelusion.blogspot.com/2014/12/the-nachash-in-garden-of-eden.html

You are pulling that "I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven" OUT OF CONTEXT.  What was happening at that time? First, God sent out the 12 to perform miracles and cast out devils. But here, Jesus sent out 70. Now there were 70 copies of Jesus casting out devils. Without a doubt, this was immediately reported to Satan, and He just had to come and see for himself. That is what Jesus saw - IN CONTEXT. 

[Justin Adams]

2 minutes ago, iamlamad said:

I think 2 BC has a more perfect picture, with the sun about her shoulders. The 12 stars form a crown above her head, not shown in this picture.

 

[Justin Adams]

1 minute ago, iamlamad said:

Jesus sent out 70

To signify all nations. The 70 were the Sons of God's nations, Deut 32. And in Psalm 82, He indicts them. The '70' were symbolic.

[Justin Adams]

3 minutes ago, iamlamad said:

IN CONTEXT

In context of Yeshua and His ministry. He send 70 to signify the Abramic Covenant was still in effect - "Thru you I will bless all nations.."