Is Reborn Israel the Beginning of the Final Generation?

[Diaste]

5 hours ago, Marilyn C said:

However, just as the fig tree puts forth new leaves before summer, so Israel would

 become a new nation, in the time-slot immediately prior to His return in Glory

 (Matthew 24:30-34)

 

 Jesus enunciated emphatically that this would be the terminal generation.  (Matthew 24:34).

Not clear if the fig tree is analogous to Israel's rebirth and the near return of the Lord, or to the signs and events that will be witnessed near the return of the Lord. I tend to the latter. It's true that for Matt 24 prophecy to come to pass Israel must be in the land, but Jesus leaves out a direct correlation between when Israel was reestablished and His return. Only the fact of Israel's existence is established, not when or for how long.

[Diaste]

1 hour ago, Sonshine said:

The parable of the fig tree gives insight as to how it will be when the antichrist sets himself up in Jerusalem claiming to be Christ, but he’s the false christ—a fake—just like the fig tree was a fake with it’s pretty green leaves but no fruit.  This will be at the 6th trump.

Not sure what you mean. There is the parable of the withered fig and one about the budding fig. They are different and so I don't understand to what you refer.

[Marilyn C]

12 hours ago, Diaste said:

Yes. But is this in the right context? There is quite a bit in Isaiah 11, Psalm 102 and the Ezekiel references. It seems to me it all may be in the context of the millennium and not necessarily the time of repatriation in 1948 to today. It's possible it is but I didn't see the connection. Perhaps something along the lines linking the return to the land with last week? 

I see the mass return of Israel to the land is going to happen and it's perpetual; but I would like to find a statement that makes a direct correlation between the return to the land and the length of time to the end of the age. From the references all I see is that the return will happen, it will remain forever and God will be with Israel, but not within a single generation. Not that it couldn't happen, I am not seeing it.

Hi Diaste,

Let`s look at the details -

`It shall come to pass in that day that the Lord shall set His hand again the SECOND TIME to recover the remnant of His people who are left...` (Isa. 11: 11)

And that happened in 1948 onwards.

 

[Marilyn C]

12 hours ago, Diaste said:

Not clear if the fig tree is analogous to Israel's rebirth and the near return of the Lord, or to the signs and events that will be witnessed near the return of the Lord. I tend to the latter. It's true that for Matt 24 prophecy to come to pass Israel must be in the land, but Jesus leaves out a direct correlation between when Israel was reestablished and His return. Only the fact of Israel's existence is established, not when or for how long.

Hi Diaste,

More details,

`Look at the fig tree and ALL THE TREES. When they ARE ALREADY BUDDING you see and know for yourselves that summer is near. So you, likewise, when you see these things happening, know that the kingdom of God is near.`` (Luke 21: 29 - 31)

When Israel became a nation a lot of other nations became independent also. And that is in the time when the kingdom/rule of God will come through Israel over the nations.

[Marilyn C]

13 hours ago, Diaste said:

Not clear if the fig tree is analogous to Israel's rebirth and the near return of the Lord, or to the signs and events that will be witnessed near the return of the Lord. I tend to the latter. It's true that for Matt 24 prophecy to come to pass Israel must be in the land, but Jesus leaves out a direct correlation between when Israel was reestablished and His return. Only the fact of Israel's existence is established, not when or for how long.

Hi again Diaste,

More details -

`Therefore when you see the `ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION` spoken about by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place...` (Matt. 24: 15)

`For there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time...And if those days had not been shortened....` (v. 21 & 22)

`Immediately after the tribulation of those days .....the Son of Man coming....with power and great glory.` (v. 29 & 30)

`Assuredly, I say to you, this generation (fig tree) will by no means pass away till all these things are fulfilled.`  (v. 34)

 

So there we see the Lord connect Daniel`s 70th week (7 years) with the tribulation, His coming & the fig tree generation.`

[Diaste]

9 hours ago, Marilyn C said:

Assuredly, I say to you, this generation (fig tree) will by no means pass away till all these things are fulfilled.`  (v. 34)

 

So there we see the Lord connect Daniel`s 70th week (7 years) with the tribulation, His coming & the fig tree generation.`

But wasn't the fig tree budding a sign of the nearness of summer; and the budding of the tree and the nearness of summer analogous to 'seeing these things' and the nearness of His return and not, 'when you see Israel reborn its the final generation'?